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Some interesting Paris Roubaix bike set-up pix...

Frederic Guesdon's canti set-up... I think its a MFG's prototype hanger:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/apr06/roubaix06/index.php?id=roubaix_bikes1/IMG_0006
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/apr06/roubaix06/index.php?id=roubaix_bikes1/IMG_0005

and his soldered spokes:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/apr06/roubaix06/index.php?id=roubaix_bikes1/IMG_0003

On Alessandro Ballan's Wilier steel - Miche brakes on full Record bike set-up? Campy not allotting enough calipers? ... or is it a long-reach calipers?:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/apr06/roubaix06/index.php?id=roubaix_bikes1/IMG_9994

The before picture...btw fwiw it doesn't look like cf steerer...:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/apr06/roubaix06/index.php?id=hincapie_trek/IMG_9944

Alessandro's stem set-up for comparison:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/apr06/roubaix06/index.php?id=roubaix_bikes1/IMG_9993

The S.P.A. (Suspension Performance Advantage) elastomer shock:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/apr06/roubaix06/index.php?id=hincapie_trek/IMG_9942
 

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Woah, woah -- did you notice Ballan's bike? It's not even a full Record bike -- he's got CHORUS shifters. I've never seen that on a pro bike.

Do you think the team just bought all those parts? I heard Campy had some deal where, when they sponsored you, it was usually the full gruppo or nothing...
 

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That Hanger

is total frankenbike from something wayyyyy old. even has rust on it.Mechanic obviously pirated a part,my guess so that it functioned as a release in case wheel bent or quick wheel change was needed. I assume you were being funny here.

Ballan's bike had Chorus levers, strange mix. definitely not all record for sure

good pic,that does indeed look like an anodized black alu steerer. first piece of conflicting evidence I've seen.good post.
 

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I wonder if the carbon spacer broke on the first crash, which may have put a lot of stress on the steerer...just guessing. Usually I would have thought the joint between the steerer tube and the fork crown would have broke first since it takes most of the beating.
I will have to check with someone but I remember someone telling me at a local cross race that a guy snapped either a fork or a steerer on a gnarly section. And he had a carbon fork with an aluminum steerer.
Guess I had better check my cross frame!
 

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atpjunkie said:
is total frankenbike from something wayyyyy old. even has rust on it.Mechanic obviously pirated a part,my guess so that it functioned as a release in case wheel bent or quick wheel change was needed. I assume you were being funny here.

Ballan's bike had Chorus levers, strange mix. definitely not all record for sure

good pic,that does indeed look like an anodized black alu steerer. first piece of conflicting evidence I've seen.good post.
Thanks.. no I was dead serious... they may be working on kinda freely modifiable parts :D

but seriously... why would they leave that much steerer on top of Ballan's stem...? Would there be possibly some kinda advange...? Maybe for swapping onto other rider's bikes?
 

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that piece looks like a 70's era mafac

brake release they bolted into a cable hanger.they left the little hoop piece just hanging.
I'm sure Ballans bike arrived fairly late and keeping the steer tube long gave them the freedom to adjust bar height with how the bike felt to him. had it been wetter a more upright position would may be have been needed,all they do is swap the spacer from above to below.
I'm suprised more people don't do this when they first get a bike. it gives you the chance to see what position is ideal before cutting the steer tube and locking yourself in.
 

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Ballan's Toobies?

That tire on Ballan's bike looks like the kind of cheap toobies I use: Vittoria Rally. Could it be true?
 

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I don't think so. They make some high end all season or wet conditions tires with green side treads. May even be called Roubaix if I remember.
 

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Hanger: ATP, it looks like the cable release hanger from an old centrepull brake setup from the '60s. We're talking before sidepull brakes were invented.
 

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Ballan's tires: Vittoria CX All Weather Pro: The cat's a$$ for Roubaix tubies. They are advertised at 26mm, but if you get a pair and pump them up to 140 overnight to 'set' them, you can measure them with calipers over 27.

Plush.
 

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Hanger: ATP, it looks like the cable release hanger from an old centrepull brake setup from the '60s. We're talking before sidepull brakes were invented.
Yep, exactly! I have a hanger like that one that is identical from my '66 Bottecchia. I took it off when I installed side-pull brakes.
So, the question is now, was he running 'cross calipers or something to create the need for that cable release hanger???
 

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yes he was running cantis

and isn't that what I said? that it looked like a waaaaay old mafac center pull hanger.

yup Green Vittoria All weather CX, THE tire for P-R. didn't they use to call them Pave?
 
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I don't think so. They make some high end all season or wet conditions tires with green side treads. May even be called Roubaix if I remember.

That is actually a really high quality tire. Vittoria Pave. top quality.
 

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yes, I know you said it too atpjunkie (nice name BTW :) but I was too lazy to quote both. I am just excited to see that because I have one like it right here! Good stuff.
 

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Woah, woah -- did you notice Ballan's bike? It's not even a full Record bike -- he's got CHORUS shifters. I've never seen that on a pro bike.

Do you think the team just bought all those parts? I heard Campy had some deal where, when they sponsored you, it was usually the full gruppo or nothing...

Not true... teams have been sponsored with lower end groups before. Roger Hammond's bike from a few years back had either Chorus or Ultegra. You know you're not D1 when your bike is Chorus or Ultegra.
 

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