Is Cavendish too good to be true?
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speculation = speculation
According to your logic, anyone who wins a stage must be automatically suspected of doping, and that way of thinking can be hazardous to your health.JMac said:
No, not exactly. Four stage wins, in such a convincing fashion, is a little different. And I hear what Stella is saying . . . but over the years there must have been times when the field was depleted too, but you didn't see a single sprinter winning this many stages. He could finish with 6 stage wins . . .piano said:
But, you are right, this is total speculation, and it is too bad that in this sport when you see someone dominating you think "are they clean?" I really like Cavendish, and I hope he never disapoints us.
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Zabel was the man back in the day!StellaBlue said:
Being a Cynic...
With all of the doping escapades going on, I must admit that when I heard he was dropping out after 4 wins, my cynical side wondered whether he was quitting before he pushed his luck and got caught. If you were such a world class rider, with 4 wins under your belt, why wouldn't you go for 5...or 6 stage wins? He might never reach this point inhis career again. Just like the old saying goes, "A bird in the hand...."
With all of the doping escapades going on, I must admit that when I heard he was dropping out after 4 wins, my cynical side wondered whether he was quitting before he pushed his luck and got caught. If you were such a world class rider, with 4 wins under your belt, why wouldn't you go for 5...or 6 stage wins? He might never reach this point inhis career again. Just like the old saying goes, "A bird in the hand...."
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How is Mark Cavendish unproven before this Tour? 11 wins in 2007, and in 2008, before the Tour, he woncpark said:
Three Days of De Panne
1st, Stage 2
1st, Stage 3A
1st, Grote Scheldeprijs
1st, Prologue, Tour de Romandie
1st, Stage 5, Ster Elektrotoer
Giro d'Italia
1st, Stage 4
1st, Stage 13
2nd, Stage 12
2nd, Stage 17
4th, Points Classification
That sounds pretty proven to me in his 2nd season as a pro.
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Certainly not taking anything away from Mark, he is a rising star and I like him a lot.Racer C said:
Obviously your opinion of "proven sprinter" and mine is different (as it should).
I'm not sure who won against in Three Days of Panne, Grote Scheldeprijs, TDR, Ster Elektrotoer and Giro but I think Cipo and Petacch had way more victories than that before they won 4 stages. One thing for sure. After winning 4 stages in TDF, he is a proven sprinter in my book...:thumbsup:
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...he's a track guy...olympics on the way...Fixotica said:
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He's made his mark on this year's TdF. I expect him to repeat the process in Beijing.
I like Cavendish – it seems he's come out of nowhere, but he's been slaughtering everyone in the Madison.
I like Cavendish – it seems he's come out of nowhere, but he's been slaughtering everyone in the Madison.
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he's one of the favorites
for the Madison in Beijing
so unproven? check his track palmares as well
he goes through TdF doping controls- 4 stage wins,4 definite tests
and he faces IOC testing in 2 weeks and had British IOC testing a month or so ago
and UCI testing at the Giro (after 2 stage wins)
every other top sprinter is old while he is the rising star
for the Madison in Beijing
so unproven? check his track palmares as well
he goes through TdF doping controls- 4 stage wins,4 definite tests
and he faces IOC testing in 2 weeks and had British IOC testing a month or so ago
and UCI testing at the Giro (after 2 stage wins)
every other top sprinter is old while he is the rising star
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He is an ex-bmx'er which explaines the explosive sprinting ability. Velonews just had a article about him. It said he is usually the first sprinter off the back when they hit the big climbs.
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Right - so that pretty much rules out EPO use. As for any thing else, he seems clean, but God only knows.Bry03cobra said:
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Epo does not really help sprinters(anaerobic) for sprinting per say. It would only be helpful to "get him to the sprint section."
He's on the wrong epo program if he is doping -- the guy struggles up intermediate hills. I'd say he's clean, just a good pure sprinter. The Olympics reason was just an excuse for him and his team to get him to pull out gracefully rather than have to shamefully abandon an Alpine stage.
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