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Obviously he is not at his Tour weight, but he seemed to have good power today. And then there are the stories that he was freewheeling parts of the Romandie prologue...
 

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he will use the Giro to ride off

the excess weight (which he normally does the first week of the TdF which seems to not work for him) and get some real Alpine climbing at race pace in. I think this will get him readier for the tour than anything he's done of late. I think he's on pace and am not gonna bash him unless he shows up at the tour unready to compete. Go Der Kaiser!
 

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I have read that he apparently has a stage or two later in the Giro that he is going to test his legs.(whatever the hell that means).If he does I am interesed in seeing how he does.

He hasn't really made any obvious huge efforts this year.
 

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I don't think he's sandbagging at all. I think he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do. That said, depending on how his form develops and how Gonchar goes (I think not to the end) I could see Ullrich lighting it up on, maybe on a post-Corones stage, mainly to really test Basso's resolve and plant some seeds for the Tour battles to come.

Basso is being very circumspect in his interviews, and he's right: it's very early still.
 

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I'm sure that Jan will go full out on some of the mountain stages to see how he does and to get the training benefit. I doubt that he will care about how he does on most of the stages as he is just trying to increase his fitness and some 'easy' days are necessary for recovery.
 

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yeah, but it was a team effort, remember?
Today we discovered that T-mobile has some good team trial riders, and that apparently Ullrich is one of the top 5 strongest riders in his own team. That's all.
 

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Today we discovered that T-mobile has some good team trial riders, and that apparently Ullrich is one of the top 5 strongest riders in his own team. That's all.
But that is a lot. Rogers came to the Giro with the aim of winning the prologue and the ITT. Gonchar is the designated GC man and seems to be in good shape. By the team's time we can assume that the team is in good form. Ullrich, who is supposedly out of shape, was hammering the rest of the team. Despite his placing in Romandie, it does not look like he is in as bad as shape as some would believe.
 

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He's only a few seconds behind Cunego. Not bad for a guy that's just here to get into shape for the Tour. Let's see what he does in the mountains. I, for one, believe that his decision to ride this Giro was a smart one and I'd love to see him take a stage or two.
 

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Didn't Jan ride the Giro for Bianchi? You know, the May before he gave Lance the hardest race of LA's career? Seems to me like that might be a working formula for Jan. You know, I wonder if we won't see more of that anyway. Teams are having to ride more races, despite the I-still-don't-understand-it condition of the ProTour. And it's always been said that riding a three-week race makes deep changes in a rider's body. Maybe Jan needs racing to give him the kind of hard miles that Lance could put in in training.


Disclosure: I'm rooting for two things in July: A great Tour, won by Jan Ullrich. I've always thought he got a bad rap for never beating Lance. You know, maybe he was just the second-best Tour rider of his generation. I always figured that the reason he never beat him was simply that Lance was always that tiny fraction better. But in most of the Tours they raced together, Ullrich and Armstrong were clearly the class of the field. Nobody else was close. I want him to go out from the top step of the podium. Win the Tour, set the hour record, and retire

--Shannon.
 

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Didn't Jan ride the Giro for Bianchi? You know, the May before he gave Lance the hardest race of LA's career? Seems to me like that might be a working formula for Jan. You know, I wonder if we won't see more of that anyway. Teams are having to ride more races, despite the I-still-don't-understand-it condition of the ProTour. And it's always been said that riding a three-week race makes deep changes in a rider's body. Maybe Jan needs racing to give him the kind of hard miles that Lance could put in in training.

Disclosure: I'm rooting for two things in July: A great Tour, won by Jan Ullrich. I've always thought he got a bad rap for never beating Lance. You know, maybe he was just the second-best Tour rider of his generation. I always figured that the reason he never beat him was simply that Lance was always that tiny fraction better. But in most of the Tours they raced together, Ullrich and Armstrong were clearly the class of the field. Nobody else was close. I want him to go out from the top step of the podium. Win the Tour, set the hour record, and retire

--Shannon.
No - Ullrich didn't ride the Giro Italia in 2003. He rode the TdS that year.
 

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At Armstrong's retirement bash in Paris after last year's TdF, Ullrich in a farewell speech to LA said that he'd always tried his best to beat Lance, but Lance was better. Hats off to Ullrich for having an even-keel perspective on this, and not succumbing to the enormous pressure put on him by the media. Frankly, it's amazing that he stays so cool and still calls his own shots. I couldn't, with that kind of pressure on me.
 

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What do you mean by sandbagging?

Do you mean playing possum to spring a big surprise in the GC race? Exceedingly unlikely and not realistic. His power may be good but he is clearly still several kgs from any kind of weight that he would need to be competitive especially given the many days in the last week with steep climbs.

He will probably only give a 100% effort in the TT and then ride within himself in the mountains so as not to over extend himself on his way to peak form at the Tour. If he finishes the Giro it will be mission accomplished, and if he doesn't it still isn't really alarm bell time (yet).
 
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