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bbolstad said:
I am going to Italiy this summer and I am concidering having a frame built. I am staying in Rome/Napoli area. Anyone know of decent builders?
Tomassini based in Grosseto is a custom builder who works with steel, titanium, aluminium and carbon. He has a very good reputation and builds beautiful frames.
 

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not sure if it's still done this way, but not long ago localities used to have their own local builder and that what lots rode/ride. although more recently I've gone into shops in Italy and seen youre typical alu and carbon stuff
 

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While I was stationed in Italy, I only found one framebuilder and he did tig welded steel and painted them outside behind the shop. He didn't have a waiting list. From what I understand, you need to visit the Padua area to find the builders who do steel for guys like Torelli. Most of the bike shops I visited stocked carbon and aluminum frames. European cyclists like to ride what the pros are riding and it isn't custom steel. Get a Pegoretti, excellent construction and paint. You can custom whatever you want.
 

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beware of the wait

Awhile ago i visited the pinarello factory and ordered a custom frame... the backlog/wait time was 3-4 months italian time (real time more like 5 months which i thought was commendable)...also if you have to have it shipped back there will be insurance, duties and custom tariffs... if you can take it back with you may want to rub in some mud and put some old parts and wheels on it so no one in a uniform thinks it a brand new purchase.
 

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PinarelloFan said:
For one , he's not Italian . Why go to italy to have an american build you a titanium frame , when the best ti bikes are made in the USA ????
The OP didn't say he wanted a frame made by an Italian. He said he's going to Italy and wants a frame. The best ti bikes are made where a builder has the skill and takes the care necessary to make a frame that's appropriate for the customer. There are small ti builders in the US who I feel aren't doing that. There's at least one Italian company building ti frames that I would recommend against (in private discussion). Darren gets a lot of his raw materials from the same places most of us do and he's a very nice person and gifted fabricator to boot. He builds great frames in his shop in Italy...it's pretty simple.
 

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PinarelloFan said:
Why go to italy to have an american build you a titanium frame , when the best ti bikes are made in the USA ????
Well, that's a pretty subjective statement...now let me add mine...I'd be the first to put a custom Passoni up against any Moots, Strong, Holland, DeSalvo, Eriksen, Lynskey, Potts, etc...http://www.passoni.com/en/arte.html

For the OP...You want a custom frame built but it would help out to know what type of material you're interested in? I've listed some links of builders that offer custom frames (some only offer carbon, some only steel, some only ti and some various frame materials). Some listed below mass produce ready made sizes but will also do "frames made to measure". Work your way through the links and see if you like anything and if they're within traveling distance from where you'll be...Even give them a call before you leave to find out lead times. There are plenty more that I didn't list but this is to get you started. As mentioned earlier, many local shops have their own line of bikes as well such as Cicli Liotto in Vicenza and Cicli Fontana in Verona...too many to list!

http://www.ciclicasati.it/english/porta.htm
http://www.scapin.com/home.asp?lingua=eng
http://www.gios.it/2005/eng/prima.php?page=carbonlite-bike
http://www.daccordi-cicli.com/eng/prodotti_carbonio.html
http://www.wrcompositi.it/home.html
http://www.bassobikes.com/en/product...php?PHPSESSID=
http://www.carrera-podium.it/english/home.html#
http://www.c4carbon.com/eng/bikes/default.htm
http://www.ciocc.it/english/home-page-eng.html
http://www.fondriestbici.com/collezione_08.htm
http://www.frwbike.it/
http://www.guerciotti.it/inglese/biciclette.htm
http://www.kuota.it/english.html
http://mrgud.it/eng/index2.htm
http://www.parkpre.it/2008/it/bici.php
http://www.sab.sm/ Made in San Marino. Landlocked by Italy and the people who live there speak Italian but it's not Italy (like Vatican City). You could not tell them apart from any other Italian (except they don't have to pay taxes to Rome so many are wealthy). The MONTECRISTO bike is bad hiney.
http://www.somec.com/catalogo_eng.ph...zione=1&lan=en
http://www.switchbikes.com/
http://www.tommasini.com/frames.html
 

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Make you way North to Trento, and stop in a town called Caldonazzo. Visit with Dario Pegoretti. Bring a bottle of good American whiskey and a CD of your favorite music, better if it is hard to find music. Bring a picture of your current bike, a picture of your favorite bike, and a good idea of what you want . . . what you get will be better . . . good luck!
 

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hi i'm from around napoli and i lived in rome for a few years. i'm not aware of any exceptionally good frame builder around that area. the north of italy is where the bike are made and where the passion is. dario (pegoretti that is) in caldonazzo is the man .... no doubt!
 

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Think about how much time you have.

How long will you be there in Italy bbolstad? What material you are looking in a bike?
I know there are a lot of good brands in Italy but they will give you a long waiting time.
Between 2 to 3 month. Even the local shops that are not bussy you are looking into 2 weeks at the minimun. When you get there you will see that there is an inmense amount of brands in Italy. Think also about the price. I got the same frame as the SAB Montecristo mentioned above for less than half of the price listed in their website. You will pay more for name or Last name in that matter and is the same tubings and same attention to details.

For last check warranty, that is a good option when you consider a reconized brand because their customer service and english speaking staff.
I will be there at the end of July for 3 weeks let me know what you decided. It will be cool if you can see the whole frame from start to finish.
 
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