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Much better film than Watchmen. :D I realize most of you have already seen it, but if not it's definitely worth watching. Sean Penn delivers an amazing performance and I loved how the whole film is him speaking into a tape recorder--something so fatalistic about that. I hadn't known much of the Harvey Milk story prior to seeing the film which is a shame as he seemed to have a pivotal role in breaking down barriers for the gay community.
 

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Alex-in-Evanston said:
It's hard times on the land when you've got to resort to renting milk.
Renting isn't hard--it's when you have to puke it up when it comes time to return it that's the real downside.
 

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Bocephus Jones II said:
Renting isn't hard--it's when you have to puke it up when it comes time to return it that's the real downside.
you can avoid that discomfort if you just wait longer. He!l with the late fees.
 

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Stick a fork in this thread and turn it over--it's done.

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I saw it in the theaters. Sean Penn totally deserved the Oscar.

I remember when Dan White was paroled to a mobile home park in Chatsworth, California, within spitting distance of the Spahn Ranch where the Manson Family hung out. He didn't last long. Once people found out he was there, they pretty much ran him out of town. He moved around a few times before things cooled down and he was able to stay somewhere for a while. Then he killed himself. A wasted life.
 

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Bocephus Jones II said:
Renting isn't hard--it's when you have to puke it up when it comes time to return it
Catzilla's got the answer. Ask her how!
 

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mohair_chair said:
I saw it in the theaters. Sean Penn totally deserved the Oscar.

I remember when Dan White was paroled to a mobile home park in Chatsworth, California, within spitting distance of the Spahn Ranch where the Manson Family hung out. He didn't last long. Once people found out he was there, they pretty much ran him out of town. He moved around a few times before things cooled down and he was able to stay somewhere for a while. Then he killed himself. A wasted life.
So was he really a self-hating gay in denial as they portrayed him to be in the movie?
 

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I remember in college we screened the documentary, The Life and Times of Harvey Milk and my professor also suggested White was a closeted homosexual. Many folks wish to portray gays as a danger to X (children, marriage, the country, our way of life etc...) but really the only dangerous homosexuals are the closeted ones who wallow in self hatred and take extreme measures to distance themselves from who they are. This is where a homophobic society needs to shoulder some responsibility. Nobody would choose to be hated by so many people or choose to risk losing the love they thought was unconditional. This is one particular example of where America needs to grow up.

Good movie!
 

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So was he really a self-hating gay in denial as they portrayed him to be in the movie?
I think the movie took dramatic license with that. I don't think it is a view shared by many people who knew him.
 

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Dajianshan said:
I remember in college we screened the documentary, The Life and Times of Harvey Milk and my professor also suggested White was a closeted homosexual. Many folks wish to portray gays as a danger to X (children, marriage, the country, our way of life etc...) but really the only dangerous homosexuals are the closeted ones who wallow in self hatred and take extreme measures to distance themselves from who they are. This is where a homophobic society needs to shoulder some responsibility. Nobody would choose to be hated by so many people or choose to risk losing the love they thought was unconditional. This is one particular example of where America needs to grow up.

Good movie!
Well said, Dajianshan.
 

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Good movie but not great. Penn was terrific, and the archival footage of the walking candlelight vigil at the end was incredible.
 

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i need to see the film.

i met harvey milk in SF in about 1974 or so. i think he ran photography studio in the city at the time. i was just walking along on campus at SF State Univ and he stopped me and we talked photography briefly. he had an intensity and charisma about him; not suprising he was a leader. i can still visualize his face.

i really do need to see the film; i'm sure there's alot about his story i don't know.
 

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who is harvey milk?
 

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DrRoebuck said:
Good movie but not great. Penn was terrific, and the archival footage of the walking candlelight vigil at the end was incredible.
The ending did me in... I remember when it actually happened clearly: I was a 18 year old, confused and conflicted young man. I watched part of that candlelight procession with my mum on the 11 O'clock news. She said something then about how ridiculous it was that a person could be killed because of who he was. I realized years later that she was addressing that comment to me: her gay son, who hadn't quite figured that particular part out himself.

Milk's killing profoundly affected my life. When I saw the archival footage in the theatre I almost lost it. I wasn't just crying, my whole body was sobbing (this in a nearly empty suburban cinema).
 
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