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I just bought this for $80...is there a reason it was sold for cheap?

Light & Motion Vega LED Bike Light

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tconrady said:
I was wondering as well. I need a light because I'm going to start commuting to work a couple days a week on the bike. I was wondering what the deal was with it.
It has a internal NIMH battery so after 500 or so charges you probably need a new battery...not sure how hard it'd be to do yourself (should be pretty easy if you've done that kinda thing before), but at the worst you'd have to send back to L&M to service.
 

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I was really interested. Enough to go to CL and start the buying process. Then I went to the Light Shootout here on RBR, and determined that the 75 lumens (and judging from the pictures provided), it just isn't bright enough to warrant spending $80. It looks like it's dimmer than my 15w/25w halogen.
 

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Good reviews here.

It seems it started out, in 2005, as a 3 watt unit, and they upgraded it to 4 watts sometime later. (I don't have one.)

They really ought to supply a helmet mount with it - especially since it seems to have a narrow beam.
 

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JohnnyTooBad said:
I was really interested. Enough to go to CL and start the buying process. Then I went to the Light Shootout here on RBR, and determined that the 75 lumens (and judging from the pictures provided), it just isn't bright enough to warrant spending $80. It looks like it's dimmer than my 15w/25w halogen.
Using a 5 LED Cateye now, but it isn't really bright enough to see by when it gets really dark--more to just be seen. I used to have a 10W halogen from Performance that was plenty bright, but the battery was large and it eventually died--don't want to spend money replacing it. I think a 4 Watt LED would be plenty bright for urban commuting--probably not all that great for off-road night riding though.
 

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Bocephus Jones II said:
Using a 5 LED Cateye now, but it isn't really bright enough to see by when it gets really dark--more to just be seen. I used to have a 10W halogen from Performance that was plenty bright, but the battery was large and it eventually died--don't want to spend money replacing it. I think a 4 Watt LED would be plenty bright for urban commuting--probably not all that great for off-road night riding though.
I run a Frankenlight that I built. It houses 2 halogen bulbs. A 15w spot and 25w flood. I can't outrun it in the woods or on the road. The battery is a 6v lead acid that I bought online for $12. I've had it for about 5 years and it still holds a charge really well. It's a tall, thin battery, and I made a cage for it that mounts to the bottle cage braze-ons. It's not even as wide as the down tube. Works great. Had a buddy turn on his HID, and I turned on mine, and mine made it noticably brighter, although more yellow.
 

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teh moreon said:
They'll probably send you this, instead.
It'll probably show up without a charger or something. :rolleyes: Steepncheep just put up the Smartwool socks I like so I ordered 3 more pairs. Someone take my credit card~!!:D
 

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Once again, my youtube video of bicycle light comparisons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn3OWG6YK0

In it, you will see the comparison of a 1 watt Luxeon LED (which I believe
the Vega is) versus HID versus other lights.

Yeah, Vega is a bit obsolete sadly.
 

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aliensporebomb said:
Once again, my youtube video of bicycle light comparisons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn3OWG6YK0

In it, you will see the comparison of a 1 watt Luxeon LED (which I believe
the Vega is) versus HID versus other lights.

Yeah, Vega is a bit obsolete sadly.
Supposed to be 4w...gotta be brighter than my cheapo Cateye--I'll send it back if it isn't.
 

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Bocephus Jones II said:
Supposed to be 4w...gotta be brighter than my cheapo Cateye--I'll send it back if it isn't.
Got the Vega today. Testing it out on the cruiser ride tonite. I did a quick test of brightness in the garage and it seemed 4-5 times as bright as my 5 LED Cateye when at full power. Supposed to get 2 hours at full power from it on full...if I use the low/medium setting on the ride I should have plenty of power to use full power on the way home when I need more light. Will report back tomorrow on how well it works.
 

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I have the Vega used it all last year. Couple of things it is harder than hell to ge off the mount. You are sure you are going to bust something. Full mode you may get 1hr 15 run time. It is a fairly narrow beam. Also I suggest don't ride in the rain with it. I did got soaked came home to charge it it over heated took it apart let it dry out and wham it works again. The batteries are replaceable. Overall not bad I picked mine up on Craigslist Brand new in Box for $50.00 so it was worth it.

Ray Still
 

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abiciriderback said:
I have the Vega used it all last year. Couple of things it is harder than hell to ge off the mount. You are sure you are going to bust something. Full mode you may get 1hr 15 run time. It is a fairly narrow beam. Also I suggest don't ride in the rain with it. I did got soaked came home to charge it it over heated took it apart let it dry out and wham it works again. The batteries are replaceable. Overall not bad I picked mine up on Craigslist Brand new in Box for $50.00 so it was worth it.

Ray Still
How do you replace batteries? Are they just 4 AA NIMH rechargeble batts? Do you open up the front to access? I managed to get it off and on the mount. It is a bit tough, but doable so far. Mostly I'd use it for riding home after the cruiser ride so I don't need a super long burn time.
 

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Bocephus Jones II said:
How do you replace batteries? Are they just 4 AA NIMH rechargeble batts? Do you open up the front to access? I managed to get it off and on the mount. It is a bit tough, but doable so far. Mostly I'd use it for riding home after the cruiser ride so I don't need a super long burn time.
To replace batteries the front comes off here is the kicker though they are reversed threads so to loosen it you actually act as if you are tightening the cap. Also you light should have come with a couple of extra rubber seals this Large o ring goes around the front cap that comes off. The batteries are 4 AA NI-MH HHR-210 AAB 1.2V 2000m Ah well that is what is on the batteries anyways. Just remember reverse threads like the drive side of an english Bottom Bracket.

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abiciriderback said:
To replace batteries the front comes off here is the kicker though they are reversed threads so to loosen it you actually act as if you are tightening the cap. Also you light should have come with a couple of extra rubber seals this Large o ring goes around the front cap that comes off. The batteries are 4 AA NI-MH HHR-210 AAB 1.2V 2000m Ah well that is what is on the batteries anyways. Just remember reverse threads like the drive side of an english Bottom Bracket.

Ray Still
Cool...good to know. Seems silly they want you to send it in for battery replacement. How long did you get from the first set?

As far as the performance of the light. It was a lot brighter than my Cateye even on the medium setting. I didn't use low or the flash setting. I cranked it to high for the ride home--cast plenty of light for my urban commute home--probably not enough for MTB riding or if you're going really fast, but enough for my use. Relatively narrow beam of light. If you want the brightest light out there, this isn't it, but it's a big step up from the generic LEDs--though it was about double the price of the Cateyes (even on sale) so it ought to be better.
 

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Bocephus Jones II said:
Cool...good to know. Seems silly they want you to send it in for battery replacement. How long did you get from the first set?

As far as the performance of the light. It was a lot brighter than my Cateye even on the medium setting. I didn't use low or the flash setting. I cranked it to high for the ride home--cast plenty of light for my urban commute home--probably not enough for MTB riding or if you're going really fast, but enough for my use. Relatively narrow beam of light. If you want the brightest light out there, this isn't it, but it's a big step up from the generic LEDs--though it was about double the price of the Cateyes (even on sale) so it ought to be better.
Swap the LED out with this
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=UyFD6LqCWVolyN1wIyTNWw%3d%3d
2X bright with no change in run time.

Wider lens.
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=521-1042-ND

Note: front cap of the Vega is reverse threaded.
 

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HID light on Chainlove now for $215
 
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