I have been considering a replacement for my current Trek 5500 which has served me well for many years but now feels dated and too soft when pushing hard. I happened to be at the local Trek store to pick up a new hybrid bike for my daughter and test rode a new Madone. I did not care for it but can't say exactly why. After pouring though so many reviews on CF bikes the 585 stood out. Talked with my local shop and they said they only have framesets but would build one up for me to test ride if I wanted. Being that realistically I won't be buying until the end of the year I am not sure if I should put them through the trouble.