Road Bike, Cycling Forums banner
1 - 20 of 23 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
10 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hi guys! First time poster. I'm really torn between a decision. So a quick backstory - i've been riding hybrids my whole biking life (2007 ish, I got my first Trek Hybrid) - i'm finally ready to start biking more seriously, and I want to get a road bike.

I've been searching all over Craigslist so I can save some money (recent college grad, buried in debt and trying to conserve) but I can push 1k. Just thought buying used would give me the most bang for my bucks.

So I've narrowed it down to two options. A guy has a used Gary Fisher Ion Super, 2010, my perfect size (52cm [i'm 5' 7", 29" inseam]) for $500 - OR my LBS has a brand new cannondale, also my perfect size, (51cm) for $950. The LBS offers lifetime tune ups (the quick break inspection, alignment stuff).

So my question to you experts is, do I save $450 and go with the used fisher, that is now 7 years old; or do I go new for the extra cash.

I have ridden BOTH, and both FEEL great. The Cannondale had slightly better shifting in my opinion - incredibly smooth. Geometry and feel of the handel bar position fealt great on both as well.

Here are the links to both.

https://goo.gl/XBWLQi

https://goo.gl/687mqV



I tried my best to compare the gears, breaks, tires etc and read reviews before I cam here to beg for advice - so please trust that I have put in some effort to make this decision on my own. I just would really like the comfort of knowing that someone experienced has given me some advice before I make the leap!

Thank you in advance!!!


--- Edit: The used fisher is in exceptional condition. The owner said it was his wives' and she only rode it 7 times and then they had a baby and she stopped training. It's had some yearly tune ups, but has otherwise been hanging in the garage. I believe him. When I test rode it myself, it appeared to be flawless.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,197 Posts
Hi guys! First time poster. I'm really torn between a decision. So a quick backstory - i've been riding hybrids my whole biking life (2007 ish, I got my first Trek Hybrid) - i'm finally ready to start biking more seriously, and I want to get a road bike.

I've been searching all over Craigslist so I can save some money (recent college grad, buried in debt and trying to conserve) but I can push 1k. Just thought buying used would give me the most bang for my bucks.

So I've narrowed it down to two options. A guy has a used Gary Fisher Ion Super, 2010, my perfect size (52cm [i'm 5' 7", 29" inseam]) for $500 - OR my LBS has a brand new cannondale, also my perfect size, (51cm) for $950. The LBS offers lifetime tune ups (the quick break inspection, alignment stuff).

So my question to you experts is, do I save $450 and go with the used fisher, that is now 7 years old; or do I go new for the extra cash.

I have ridden BOTH, and both FEEL great. The Cannondale had slightly better shifting in my opinion - incredibly smooth. Geometry and feel of the handel bar position fealt great on both as well.

Here are the links to both.

https://goo.gl/XBWLQi

https://goo.gl/687mqV



I tried my best to compare the gears, breaks, tires etc and read reviews before I cam here to beg for advice - so please trust that I have put in some effort to make this decision on my own. I just would really like the comfort of knowing that someone experienced has given me some advice before I make the leap!

Thank you in advance!!!


--- Edit: The used fisher is in exceptional condition. The owner said it was his wives' and she only rode it 7 times and then they had a baby and she stopped training. It's had some yearly tune ups, but has otherwise been hanging in the garage. I believe him. When I test rode it myself, it appeared to be flawless.
You probably will be fine with either bike to be honest, but I would always choose a deal that comes with a warranty and a shop when I have the chance. How about splitting the baby? You could probably get the CAAD Optimo, which is the new and improved CAAD 8 for around $700, which saves you some money and gets you a new bike, plus I like it better than the Synapse you were looking at. The Giant Contend and Specialized Allez are other options and those brand new bikes come in around $600-$700, so why go used ya know?

CAAD Optimo Claris Cannondale Bicycles

CAAD Optimo Claris Cannondale Bicycles

Here's the Allez and the Contend:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/road/allez-e5/115176

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/contend-3
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
You probably will be fine with either bike to be honest, but I would always choose a deal that comes with a warranty and a shop when I have the chance. How about splitting the baby? You could probably get the CAAD Optimo, which is the new and improved CAAD 8 for around $700, which saves you some money and gets you a new bike, plus I like it better than the Synapse you were looking at. The Giant Contend and Specialized Allez are other options and those brand new bikes come in around $600-$700, so why go used ya know?

CAAD Optimo Claris Cannondale Bicycles

CAAD Optimo Claris Cannondale Bicycles

Here's the Allez and the Contend:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/road/allez-e5/115176

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/contend-3
Good thinking; I actually test rode the Specialized Allez at the same time as the Cannondale. Simliarly to what I thought with the Gary, the Cannondale's shifting felt a bit better - but possibly not $300 better :p because you're right, it was $650. Thanks for your opinions!







Welcome to RBR by the way.
And thank you! :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,197 Posts
No worries, happy to help. You can always upgrade shifters and components off of deals you find online down the road anyways. I buy a lot of stuff off of eBay, nashbar, chain reaction cycles, western bike works, Jenson USA, wiggle, etc. for great prices on closeout or sale. Just get the bike you like most in your price range. It's a added benefit if it comes with a warranty and a relationship with a shop in my opinion, but truly it's up to you. Update us on what you decide to do.
 

·
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Joined
·
8,152 Posts
Those Gary Fisher road bikes were on my short list of bikes to buy when I ultimately wound up building a road bike. They were decent, IMO...it's a shame that Trek killed off the brand :(
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Those Gary Fisher road bikes were on my short list of bikes to buy when I ultimately wound up building a road bike. They were decent, IMO...it's a shame that Trek killed off the brand :(
So do you think it is worth $500, when there are 2017 Specialized Allez for $650? That's my struggle.
 

·
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Joined
·
8,152 Posts
So do you think it is worth $500, when there are 2017 Specialized Allez for $650? That's my struggle.
I'm going to defer and give you a non-answer :D

Try to get your butt onto as many bikes as possible, starting above your budget, and get an idea of exactly what you're looking for. Then, pare down the features that aren't necessary until you get within your budget.

For me, it would be well worth the $500 (well, I'd offer $450 based on the bicyclebluebook link) to get the Gary Fisher, since I have tried it and loved it. I wasn't in love with the offerings in Specialized's Allez line when I was looking. I ultimately wound up building my bike as close to a Cannondale Synapse as I possibly could, since that bike was the one that I really loved.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
360 Posts
For 150 i would go with the shop just for the warranty. They may also give you a discount on accessories at time of purchase.

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,197 Posts
I think you should test a Caad Optimo before you make up your mind if you can. It is more affordable than the Synapse, but Cannondale has a long history of doing good things with aluminum. I really like that bike for the price point. You have a bunch of options in this price range that are all pretty similar (including those listed above and the Trek 1 Series and BMC ALR, etc.). I don't see any reason to go used and pass on a warranty and a free fit session unless you just have to have the Gary Fisher. It's truly up to you what you do from here though. None of us can give you the correct answer.
 

·
Banned Sock Puppet
Joined
·
14,443 Posts
I think you should test a Caad Optimo......
This is a totally different type of bike from the ones the OP mentioned. The ones he's looking at are endurance road bikes with a more upright position. The CAAD bikes have a lower more aggressive race position - probably not what the OP is looking for.

To the OP: I agree with what others have said about having the support of a bike shop and a warranty. If you can possibly swing it, I would go for the Synapse. It's a great bike and the shop should give you a detailed fitting when they sell you the bike.

One red flag with the Gary Fisher. They are now owned by Trek and use Bontrager (Trek branded) components. Their wheels have been troublesome. The $500 may not be such a great deal if you are then faced with another $200 for a new wheel set.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
169 Posts
One red flag with the Gary Fisher. They are now owned by Trek and use Bontrager (Trek branded) components. Their wheels have been troublesome. The $500 may not be such a great deal if you are then faced with another $200 for a new wheel set.
The red flag wheels are the paired spokes ones, the 'wheels of doom', they look cool, but they are lacking in durability.
The standard spoked ones are okay.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

·
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Joined
·
8,152 Posts
This is a totally different type of bike from the ones the OP mentioned. The ones he's looking at are endurance road bikes with a more upright position. The CAAD bikes have a lower more aggressive race position - probably not what the OP is looking for.

To the OP: I agree with what others have said about having the support of a bike shop and a warranty. If you can possibly swing it, I would go for the Synapse. It's a great bike and the shop should give you a detailed fitting when they sell you the bike.

One red flag with the Gary Fisher. They are now owned by Trek and use Bontrager (Trek branded) components. Their wheels have been troublesome. The $500 may not be such a great deal if you are then faced with another $200 for a new wheel set.
Trek killed off the GF moniker just a few years after their foray into road biking...maybe 2012 or so?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,197 Posts
This is a totally different type of bike from the ones the OP mentioned. The ones he's looking at are endurance road bikes with a more upright position. The CAAD bikes have a lower more aggressive race position - probably not what the OP is looking for.

To the OP: I agree with what others have said about having the support of a bike shop and a warranty. If you can possibly swing it, I would go for the Synapse. It's a great bike and the shop should give you a detailed fitting when they sell you the bike.

One red flag with the Gary Fisher. They are now owned by Trek and use Bontrager (Trek branded) components. Their wheels have been troublesome. The $500 may not be such a great deal if you are then faced with another $200 for a new wheel set.
I find that we overstate the difference between race and endurance bikes a lot of times to be honest. A good shop can often fit you on either bike comfortably given all the spacer and stem options we have today. Again OP, try different bikes and just get the one you want most. Don't let us over influence you.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
169 Posts
Fisher was their own company through I want to say 2009, then they were produced by Trek. I've got a 2009 Fisher, and it definitely not Trek branded.

Ok, I am done hijacking your thread.
Truth be said, go with the new bike over used. Get something up to date and a warranty. When you are into your 3rd or 4th and have the knowledge to tinker, then go for the used one. My $.02



Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

·
Banned Sock Puppet
Joined
·
14,443 Posts
The red flag wheels are the paired spokes ones, the 'wheels of doom', they look cool, but they are lacking in durability.
The standard spoked ones are okay.
The paired spoke ones are the worst for sure, but even the standard spoked ones after that aren't without problems.

I find that we overstate the difference between race and endurance bikes a lot of times to be honest. A good shop can often fit you on either bike comfortably given all the spacer and stem options we have today.
Spacer and stem options may be OK for an existing bike, but it is still a case of fitting a round peg in a square hole. Possible, but not optimal. I certainly would not purchase a new bike to do this with when there are so many options for your type of frame geometry.
 
1 - 20 of 23 Posts
Top