shades9323 said:After fit and test ride, please list what are the next most important aspects to look at when getting a new road bike. Should I look at shifters first? Deraiullers first? Forks?
I would classify myself as a casual rider. I don't plan on getting into racing. No bike can make me look cool anyway.FatTireFred said:depends...
racing? prob aerodynamics, stiffness, and such.
casual rider? comfort.
commuter? rack mounts, etc.
just wanna look cool? color.
You'd do well to first learn about what you speak, dogmeat. Uneducated generalizations should not be presented as fact.dogmeat said:Trek, for instance, puts wheels with deep aero sections, radial lacing, and some cheap house-brand rubber on just about everything. What for? It sells bikes, I guess.
Maybe my "just about" and "I guess" are too aristotlean for you? Instead of an ad hominim attack generalized response with no information content, why not educate us?WhiskeyNovember said:You'd do well to first learn about what you speak, dogmeat. Uneducated generalizations should not be presented as fact.
I never took issue with the radial lacing and house-brand rubber claims...not that either of those are <i>bad</i> things. Your biggest misunderstanding involves your claim that Trek puts wheels with "deep aero sections" on "just about everything". This alone demonstrates your lack of understanding and false generalizations. Go ahead...dig yourself into a deeper hole of misunderstanding.dogmeat said:OK, you tell me which trek road bike that costs over $1,000 that doesn't have radial lacing and house-brand rubber?
Um...you're aware Trek offers more than Pilot model, right? If you're surprised by this, you might also be surprised to learn that they don't all have the same wheels.dogmeat said:Maybe you can explain the wheel choice for the Pilot (the "fast comfy cruiser")
I <i>wouldn't</i> choose Bontrager Selects to ride on a $5000 bike. In fact, I never implied such a thing. Where did you get this $5000 figure, anyway? Oh, and I'd be careful about basing your purchasing decisions on RBR reviews...dogmeat said:and why YOU woud pick Bontrager Selects to ride on a $5grand bike, given the marginal RBR reviews of 'em...
Since when is calling an uninformed individual out on his false and misleading "facts" known as "flaming"? You made inaccurate statements. I called you out on them.dogmeat said:Flame on, dude. If you're gonna flame... bring it!
Logic, and 5 minutes of simple research will demonstrate that the carbon fiber used in the vast majority of seatposts offers far superior vibration-damping characteristics when compared with traditional aluminum seatposts.dogmeat said:ps- Carbon seat post???? What the heck for? So you can overtighten the collar and break it?
First, don't buy new. Used = better bike for the same (or less $$)shades9323 said:After fit and test ride, please list what are the next most important aspects to look at when getting a new road bike. Should I look at shifters first? Deraiullers first? Forks?
I'm going skip the flamefest and answer your question, but probably not in the way you want. At a given price point, there is going to be very little variation in the quality of the components between different major bike manufactures. The wheels may have different names, the tires different, the bars will be different brands but they will be very similar if not the same in terms of quality. All of the bikes you are looking at will likely last longer than you want to ride them. Same goes for the components as long as you properly maintain the bike.shades9323 said:The wheel sets on the bikes I am looking at are all Alex. Can't really afford to upgrade the wheels already as I am buying a bike for myself and one for my wife. The bikes we are looking at are the Trek 1000, Specialized Allez, Giant OCR3, and the Diamondback Podium 1. How much of a difference does a carbon seatpost make (Trek and Specialized). The Giant also has a "composit fork" instead of a carbon like the others. Does that make a difference. All have sora shifters/brakes. The Trek and Diamondback have 2203 front deraiuller and Tiagra rear. The Specialized has Sora up front and Tiagra in back. The Giant has Sora front and back.
Which bike do you think has the best combination of attributes?
jaseone said:I think most posters are missing the point of the original question, the OP isn't talking about upgrades but what they should take into consideration when trying to select a new bike for purchase so yeah if it came down to two equally good bikes where one had a CF seatpost and the other didn't then I'd choose the one with the CF post.
Unless you really know what you are doing and if it is your first bike then you aren't going to qualify then I wouldn't recommend going down the used or online bike route unless maybe you do have someone that knows their stuff you can rely on for assistance.
I'm a big fan of making use of the Local Bike Shop for advice and fitting adjustments being a newbie road cyclist myself so I would also factor in how convenient and how much you like the store you purchase from.