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I bought a $400 cromemoly commuter bike from BD for my son three years ago and it's been great. Very reliable wheels and frame and the lower end Shimano stuff (don't recall the exact name of the group, I think it's 8 spd) that came on the bike has been rock solid.


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Man...nice looking bike, retro-looking, yet modern. Almost interested, except for one thing; that Motobecane sticker. Can you order it without the branding?

First, the vast majority of classic Motobecanes were....just "meh" bikes at best. The name "Motobecane" means "motor scooter", which also decreases it's cachet, and today, it just screams "I bought this bike cheaply on Bikes Direct!!!!" for all to hear.

Frankly, if it was branded "Nashbar", I'd be more likely to buy it....
 

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Man...nice looking bike, retro-looking, yet modern. Almost interested, except for one thing; that Motobecane sticker. Can you order it without the branding?

First, the vast majority of classic Motobecanes were....just "meh" bikes at best. The name "Motobecane" means "motor scooter", which also decreases it's cachet, and today, it just screams "I bought this bike cheaply on Bikes Direct!!!!" for all to hear.

Frankly, if it was branded "Nashbar", I'd be more likely to buy it....
Totally again on all points. I do love the look and color of that bike.
 

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Ahhh, you clicked on that RBR ad!

A 17lb. Reynolds 853 bike sounds almost too good to be true. I will just say this. I would want to test ride before I buy any bike I'm going to be spending considerable time and miles on. You can't test ride BD bikes. So what happens when you get your internet bike, put it all together or pay your LBS to put it together and then you don't like the way it rides and feels?

Motobecane is one of those brands like Schwinn and Suntour. Once great brands that dumbed themselves down.
 

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Ahhh, you clicked on that RBR ad!

A 17lb. Reynolds 853 bike sounds almost too good to be true. I will just say this. I would want to test ride before I buy any bike I'm going to be spending considerable time and miles on. You can't test ride BD bikes. So what happens when you get your internet bike, put it all together or pay your LBS to put it together and then you don't like the way it rides and feels?

Motobecane is one of those brands like Schwinn and Suntour. Once great brands that dumbed themselves down.
17lbs does seem low. Maybe in a small size without pedals you could get close. Not sure how relevant the test drive comment is. I don't think I could find a shop within a reasonable drive that would have ANY steel road bike to test ride
 

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17lbs does seem low. Maybe in a small size without pedals you could get close. Not sure how relevant the test drive comment is. I don't think I could find a shop within a reasonable drive that would have ANY steel road bike to test ride
Really? You're right next to Cherry Hill. Looks like a few shops there. None that sell steel bikes?
 

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Really? You're right next to Cherry Hill. Looks like a few shops there. None that sell steel bikes?
Not in stock. What major brand even has a steel bike? When I bought my Colnago Master I had to order it from D&Q. Sadly unless your bike starts with a "T" or a "S" finding anything to test ride is problematic.
 

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Not in stock. What major brand even has a steel bike? When I bought my Colnago Master I had to order it from D&Q. Sadly unless your bike starts with a "T" or a "S" finding anything to test ride is problematic.
Really? That depends on the shop. Jamis makes steel road and gravel bikes which my shop sells.
 

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Really? That depends on the shop. Jamis makes steel road and gravel bikes which my shop sells.
I guess you are lucky, I don't think there is a Jamis dealer in my state. I doubt the average RBRer could waltz into their LBS and ride a steel bike
 

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I guess you are lucky, I don't think there is a Jamis dealer in my state. I doubt the average RBRer could waltz into their LBS and ride a steel bike
Dude, I live in the same state as you do!

I just checked the map and there are three in your area:

FIND A RETAILER


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Man...nice looking bike, retro-looking, yet modern. Almost interested, except for one thing; that Motobecane sticker. Can you order it without the branding?

First, the vast majority of classic Motobecanes were....just "meh" bikes at best. The name "Motobecane" means "motor scooter", which also decreases it's cachet, and today, it just screams "I bought this bike cheaply on Bikes Direct!!!!" for all to hear.

Frankly, if it was branded "Nashbar", I'd be more likely to buy it....
"Nashbar?" Nah.

"Motobecane" rolls off the tongue so smoothly, monsieur! :thumbsup:
 

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Turned into an interesting thread. Some comments:

I live in northern NJ and wouldn't know where to get a steel bike except on line, which is where I got my current one. The stores mostly carry the big three, with the ones in fancier ZIPs adding some fancier brands. If you do find one it's probably going to be a Surly.

I got my GT from Bike Island, BD's scratch-and-dent division. It was one-quarter the price of the Motobecane, came in a box with stray parts rattling around (and was likely previously returned based on the paperwork), and I got zero support from the vendor.

"Motobecane" is a definite turnoff. I'm not normally a brand snob, but the association with BD tarnishes the bike. My LBS is good about servicing any bike; however, I've been to shops where they know you bought on line and don't go out of their way to make the experience pleasant. Same with their customers.

Going to ponder this some more. Short story is I really don't need another road bike and the logistics of N+1 make this difficult.
 

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Turned into an interesting thread. Some comments:

I live in northern NJ and wouldn't know where to get a steel bike except on line, which is where I got my current one. The stores mostly carry the big three, with the ones in fancier ZIPs adding some fancier brands. If you do find one it's probably going to be a Surly.

I got my GT from Bike Island, BD's scratch-and-dent division. It was one-quarter the price of the Motobecane, came in a box with stray parts rattling around (and was likely previously returned based on the paperwork), and I got zero support from the vendor.

"Motobecane" is a definite turnoff. I'm not normally a brand snob, but the association with BD tarnishes the bike. My LBS is good about servicing any bike; however, I've been to shops where they know you bought on line and don't go out of their way to make the experience pleasant. Same with their customers.

Going to ponder this some more. Short story is I really don't need another road bike and the logistics of N+1 make this difficult.
Did you read my post #13? Jamis has a whole line of steel road as well as gravel bikes. Plenty of places to buy these.
 

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Did you read my post #13? Jamis has a whole line of steel road as well as gravel bikes. Plenty of places to buy these.
The question would be do they have any in the shop or just to order? I cant remember the last time I saw a steel bike for sale in a shop. The exception would be Wheelfine imports in Lambertville which has so many obscure steel frames it makes your head spin. I think that the addition of any new steel bikes into the market, even if its BD, is a good thing. If folks are fine buying their stealth-gray, soulless plastic bike from the Trek or Specialized store that is fine too
 

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Couple of thoughts ...

Yeah, Motobecane screams BD, but no worse in my eyes than Jamis or Surley. I owned a real Motobcane Super Mirage years ago. It wasn't a bad bike for a college kid.

How much money does BD save by substituting crappy FSA cranks for Ultegra cranks? At least the brakes are Shimano and not Tektro.

Those LeMond 853 bikes were really nice. It's good to see someone is making an 853 bike. For $2k, that's a good deal. Too bad it's compact geometry. Steel bikes should have traditional geometry. I bet he sells out in a month.

I live in an urban area (DC) and it's pretty hard to find shops with anything but the big 3 and Cervelo readily available to test ride. I can't remember the last time I test rode a bike before buying it. Except for fit, you don't really get a sense of how a bike rides (and to some extent fits) until you ride it for a while. I know what fits me and have bought my last four bikes as frames and separate components and had the LBS build them up for me. They do a nice job and I can give them some business.

A friend of mine bought a Kestrel from BD last year. I helped him put it together. It was pretty easy. Put on wheels, brakes, front derailer, and straighten out the stem/bar and tighten it. we couldn't get the front derailer 100% so he took it to the LBS. I think they charged him $50. So the bike was a pretty good deal. Not my cup of soup, but he likes it.
 
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