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Riding behind a car/truck/van to get a draft.. to go faster than you can normally to better simulate going really fast. You can't practice high speed technique unless you're moving fast right?

If you're following someone you can trust with your life you should be ok.. but think twice before motor pacing that semi... his brakes stop better than yours.
 

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ZoSoSwiM said:
Riding behind a car/truck/van to get a draft.. to go faster than you can normally to better simulate going really fast. You can't practice high speed technique unless you're moving fast right?

If you're following someone you can trust with your life you should be ok.. but think twice before motor pacing that semi... his brakes stop better than yours.
The problem with motorpacing a car or truck is not being able to see beyond the car, there could be an obstacle on the road or a sudden stop. It is safer if the person you're motorpacing knows you're there and knows how to pace correctly.

The safest is behind a motorcycle with a bike racer or former racer driving. It also helps if he's gotten totally out of shape and is really fat. In particular, this guy may be the best motorpacer in the world



his name is Joop Zijlaard and he drives dernies in pro races I saw him pace Brad Wiggins to a win in a race at the Ghent six day. He's a big crowd favorite at those races, this is what it said about him in the race program: "...Om de renners maximaal uit de
wind te houden, is een indrudkwekkend 'postur' van de gangmaker uiteraard belangrijk, het ligt voor de hand waarom de populaire
Nederlander Joop Zijlaard zo vaak met verschillende partner wint..."

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I wish I had someone to motorpace me. I have thought about getting the wife a scooter, she always wants to be more involved...

Of course that raises the question of what to do with the kids while we are out prepping me for my all important 45 mintue races. Maybe a sidecar, it might help increase the draft.
 

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Get the scooter, less sure about having your wife pace you

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I wish I had someone to motorpace me. I have thought about getting the wife a scooter, she always wants to be more involved...

Of course that raises the question of what to do with the kids while we are out prepping me for my all important 45 mintue races. Maybe a sidecar, it might help increase the draft.
My wife and I got a scooter with this in mind (as well as for us being able to spend some time together when I go out on long rides, and using it as a fun and economical means of transportation), but as I've really thought about who I want to drive it for motorpacing, I've decided that asking my wife might be a bad idea. Partly that's because I think it would be helpful if the driver had a better understanding of cycling than my wife happens to have, but mostly I've decided that I don't want her to feel responsible for maiming me if something goes wrong. Maybe those aren't issues for you, but they're something to think about . . . . Possibly I'll feel differently when my wife is a more experienced scooter driver.
 

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My wife and I got a scooter with this in mind (as well as for us being able to spend some time together when I go out on long rides, and using it as a fun and economical means of transportation), but as I've really thought about who I want to drive it for motorpacing, I've decided that asking my wife might be a bad idea. Partly that's because I think it would be helpful if the driver had a better understanding of cycling than my wife happens to have, but mostly I've decided that I don't want her to feel responsible for maiming me if something goes wrong. Maybe those aren't issues for you, but they're something to think about . . . . Possibly I'll feel differently when my wife is a more experienced scooter driver.
It's definitely much better to get a racer or ex racer, because the motor driver has to be able to recognize road hazards and conditions. In particular, if the road surface deteriorates, then you have to slow down because the cyclist has to work harder, and you also have to understand how much to slow down on false flats (it can be a lot if you're going fast). Also important is now to speed up, modern scooters are pretty powerful and you can easily drop the cyclist. Finally, it is very important for the motor driver to understand the cyclist, that is, he has to develop a feeling for how the rider is doing and when to push it and when to back off. So you need a special type of racer, one who has a good understanding of the people he's riding with, e.g., a person who can lead a good team time trial. Those types of people are not that common.

For the cyclist, it's pretty easy, not very different at all from riding in a pack or drafting a wheel. Things before a little more difficult when the cyclist is going all out because he's just staring at the rear wheel or exhaust pipe and is totally dependent on the driver for his safety. The motor has to avoid road hazards, and it is usually safer to drive in the middle of the road, you're not really blocking traffic as you can go between 40 and 50mph on the flats.

It is important to have signals. For example, if the motor honks his horn, that means that there is a danger, and the rider should sit up and be ready to break. If there is a problem, then it is usually safest for the motorcycle to speed up and drop the rider, as he will slow down and won't run into the bike. Shifting gears can be a problem, especially if it is a fairly large motorcycle which has more compression and shaft drive which is not as smooth. If it is bad, then it is better to just stay in one gear and keep to a fairly level road. Almost all scooters, except for some Vespas, have automatic transmissions, so you can keep it in one gear, so you have to verify how smoothly they shift and how unexpected these are. Scooters can also be less stable due to smaller wheels. For these reasons, a small motorcycle is probably the best way to go, they are also cheaper than scooters.

I did a lot of motorpacing for my team. One time, I ended up motorpacing Greg Lemond after a race until a car pulled out in front of me and I had to speed up in order to allow him to avoid the danger.

-ilan
 

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here's a pic of Ira Ryan motor pacing Jason Mccartney from <a href="https://iraryanbicycles.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/pacin-jason/">ira's blog</a>.

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bianchi77 said:
I want to know about motor pacing ...

Is it mean :

The motorcycle (bike) pace in front of me...?or

I train using my trainer that the resistance connected to a motor spinning continously ?

Thanks
Here is my try at the Breaking Away scene. Kids don't try this at home
 

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I kind of like the idea of connecting my fixed gear to a motorbike using an elastic line and having someone tow me at speed. But I'm too chicken.

Oh yes, there have been rollers that have been modified so that they are driven by a motor.
 
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