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Hey All,

Long time, no chat. Hope all is well for all of you.

I just picked up an old, 68cm, fillet brazed frame off craigslist. It appears to be well-made in general, but there are no decals and no serial number, so I don't have a clue who made it.

If any of you are frame sleuths, please take a look at these photos:

Flickr: diarmaede's stuff tagged with mysterybike

Any help I could get identifying this frame would be much appreciated.

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Well that's an interesting fillet brazed frame, probably mid to late 70s (from the over stay cable routing)--and the first thing that came to mind was Moser.

Have you checked to see if it has Italian threading on the bottom bracket?

The dead give-away on that frame is the seatpost bolt through the stays--very unusual, and although it is tickling the back of my mind (Legnano is one who had an unusual bolt treament back in the day) I could not find any closeups of a similar seat stay/seat bolt. Other than Moser, the other Italian company that did interesting fillet brazed frames was Casati.

Interestingly, that seat stay treatment is the same as the new Cinelli XCr
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View attachment 274787 I found another bike with a similar seat stay attachment--although not fillet brazed--a Panasonic 6000. If it were Japanese, it would have an English threaded BB...

As far as fillet brazed Panasonics though, I only found one that was a semi-fillet brazed custom bike
 

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Frame must be newer than the mid 70's as the rear dropout have short slots and the cable guides are brazed on, not clamped on. Mid 70's bikes usually have exposed mounting nuts on the brake pivot bolts not flush as you see on the back of the fork crown on that bike. 70's bike usually had clamped on bottle cages or just one pair of bottle mount braze-ons not the double bottle setup you see on that bike....
I would say that the bike could be from sometime in the mid 80's or even later.
As the bike is so big/tall, it could be a custom job from a specialist builder for a very tall customer, that's maybe why the absence of markings on the bike. Who knows, maybe the owner of the bike made it for himself.....

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Have you checked to see if it has Italian threading on the bottom bracket?
BB is English. The BB shell is 63.5mm! This concerned me at first, but some knowledgeable folks on the CR list suggested that this would not be that unusual for a custom frame from the 70s. So, I put a 2mm spacer on the drive side, and it works beautifully.

A couple of people have thrown out Mr. Ritchey's name as a possiblity. That'd be pretty cool.

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That's a great frame, if it's for you please don't tell me you are 5'6" tall. Lol lol lol
Whatcha planning on putting on there? Classic parts or modern parts.
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Nope. I'm 6'6", so it fits me like a glove. At this point, I just repacked the bearings, gave it a tune up, and I am riding it as-found. It makes a great around town bike. I may do something different with it later, but I've got so many classic steel bikes at this point, one more classic build just sounds like that much more work!

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BB is English. The BB shell is 63.5mm! This concerned me at first, but some knowledgeable folks on the CR list suggested that this would not be that unusual for a custom frame from the 70s. So, I put a 2mm spacer on the drive side, and it works beautifully.

A couple of people have thrown out Mr. Ritchey's name as a possiblity. That'd be pretty cool.

Cheers,

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I was thinking the same!
 
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