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It's been more than 15 years since I've ridden a road bike, which I used to do daily for 5+ years when I was living in Florida. So I'm not exactly a beginner but I want to start again and the technology has changed quite a bit. I'm in the process of researching a new bike and my interests are in the Trek Pilot 5.2 (with Shimano Ultegra components) and the Klein Reve X (with Campagnolo Veloce components). The reason for the interest in these two bikes is the more comfortable, upright riding since I have back issues. My riding will be for fitness and touring in group rides, not racing. Besides the $500 lower price tag for the Klein, I've been told that a guy my size (6'2", 205 lbs) may find the Full-Carbon frame of the Trek too light where the aluminum frame of the Klein provides more support. Any feedback on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

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The advise you were given with regard to the Trek being "too light" is baloney. Perhaps your friend thought the Klein was stronger, but "weight" of the bike is irrelevant.

Fit is obviously important and these two models are different. Depending on your proportions, one may fit better than the other. The Trek has a shorter top tube and a more relaxed steering trail. The head tube length is important for establishing handlebar height, but I can't compare the two since Klein fails to list the head tube length.

Try to find a shop that's capable of a serious (accurate) sizing. If all they do is offer a test ride and no other help, go elsewhere.

Keep in mind that the stem length and height on a bike right from the shop is not likely to suit you. Most prebuilt bikes will have a short stem installed, with the bars as high as they will go. A brief test ride really won't tell you a lot about the fit. That's why it's important to get some fitting assistance.

My last comment adresses the component differences. Be sure both are 10 speed, otherewise you're looking at now outdated product. I prefer Campy components myself, but the Veloce parts are a lower level than Ultegra. Veloce is priced more like Shimano 105. Shimano is far more common at most shops, so be sure youre dealer is well versed in Campy maintenance, if you don't do your own work. You should ride both brands and notice the difference in shifting technique. There are definite differences.

http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike.php?bikeid=1409000&f=2

http://www.kleinbikes.com/us/cross_reference/index.html
 

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If you end up with the Reve, please let us know how you like it. There haven't been too many reviews of the elastomer cushioned frames from Trek or Klein. By the way, the Trek Pilot 2.1 s.p.a seems to be more or less equivalent to the Klein Reve, aluminum with elastomer. The 2.1 s.p.a comes with Ultegra.
 

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The advise you were given with regard to the Trek being "too light" is baloney. Perhaps your friend thought the Klein was stronger, but "weight" of the bike is irrelevant.

Fit is obviously important and these two models are different. Depending on your proportions, one may fit better than the other. The Trek has a shorter top tube and a more relaxed steering trail. The head tube length is important for establishing handlebar height, but I can't compare the two since Klein fails to list the head tube length.

Try to find a shop that's capable of a serious (accurate) sizing. If all they do is offer a test ride and no other help, go elsewhere.

Keep in mind that the stem length and height on a bike right from the shop is not likely to suit you. Most prebuilt bikes will have a short stem installed, with the bars as high as they will go. A brief test ride really won't tell you a lot about the fit. That's why it's important to get some fitting assistance.

My last comment adresses the component differences. Be sure both are 10 speed, otherewise you're looking at now outdated product. I prefer Campy components myself, but the Veloce parts are a lower level than Ultegra. Veloce is priced more like Shimano 105. Shimano is far more common at most shops, so be sure youre dealer is well versed in Campy maintenance, if you don't do your own work. You should ride both brands and notice the difference in shifting technique. There are definite differences.

http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike.php?bikeid=1409000&f=2

http://www.kleinbikes.com/us/cross_reference/index.html
....for the feedback. Glad to hear that the frame material should have no impact on my size. The shop I'm working with is very professional, spending a lot of time with me and fitting me on the Trek Pilot 5.2, which they had in stock in a 58cm frame. They're also offering me this 2005 model at what seems to be a good price, $2199. The Klein came into it when I commented that this may be more bike than I need. He found a Reve X close by, which he ordered, enabling me to be fitted and test drive both bikes when it comes in. I understand that you prefer Campy components. Any opinion on the Ultegra components? And do you think the Pilot is worth the $500 difference?

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