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What would be the pluses/minuses? I feel like I can get a new Bottecchia or a used bike (cannondale/specialized/jamis) for a similar price. I've seen pretty good reviews.



Also, if I went the BD route, which would be the best deal? I originally didn't want to go over 800, but...



http://cgi.ebay.com/08-BOTTECCHIA-B...ryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-BOTTECCHIA...ryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



http://cgi.ebay.com/BOTTECCHIA-2008...ryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 

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Halebopp said:
What would be the pluses/minuses? I feel like I can get a new Bottecchia or a used bike (cannondale/specialized/jamis) for a similar price. I've seen pretty good reviews.



Also, if I went the BD route, which would be the best deal? I originally didn't want to go over 800, but...



http://cgi.ebay.com/08-BOTTECCHIA-B...ryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-BOTTECCHIA...ryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



http://cgi.ebay.com/BOTTECCHIA-2008...ryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If you're willing to go up to $1,000 for a BD Bottecchia, here's one alternative, but there are others:
http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/08_bikes/08venturarace.html#
 

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I went the BD route for my road bike. I felt like I got quite a bit for my money.

I have the lechampion SL from BD, which is a tad over your price range- but might be worth it. Keep in mind that you will probably have to buy small things for it like a new stem (they won't let you choose) and possibly a new saddle (stock one does not work for most people). You may also want to have a bike store double check your work after you put it together if you are not familiar with mike mechanics.
 

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Hmm... Those Bottecchia's look nice for the price. Since I live in Houston, I might drive up there and take a look at them before I decide too. I'm just not sure about the wheels - I've been trying to find the difference between the two different Vuelta wheel brands - one says VueltaXRPwheels.com and the other is (Can't remember the site) Vuelta with their road line named corsa...
 

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From looking at a few things: Bottecchia is bikedirect's ebay version. Same bikes, but all have those heavy-ass Vuelta XRP wheels. No options of a decent wheel in the lot. At least the BD's bikes wheels vary - some have the Vuelta SL, some have Ritchey, and some even have Shimano wheels.
The BD Corvus AL is a good example as is the Mercier Ultegras.
 

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just curious...how are they so inexpensive? frames from Italian bike companies are generally quite pricey.

as I read the description, it sounds like this company in Houston is paying Bottecchia to license the Bottecchia name and is making their own frames to their own specs, likely using an inexpensive off shore manufacurer ??? and if they're not doing this, I can't believe the prices are so low.
 

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just curious...how are they so inexpensive? frames from Italian bike companies are generally quite pricey.

as I read the description, it sounds like this company in Houston is paying Bottecchia to license the Bottecchia name and is making their own frames to their own specs, likely using an inexpensive off shore manufacurer ??? and if they're not doing this, I can't believe the prices are so low.
Right, BD pays to use the names of long time manufacturers, including some that are no longer in business (e.g., motobecane) and applies those names to Taiwanese frames. On the other hand, many so-called Made in Italy frames from extant Italian manufacturers are in fact made in Taiwan, as the laws in Italy allow frames to be labeled as Italian made even if they are only painted there. The factories in Taiwan make perfectly fine frames, but don't think that an Italian name means anything.
 
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