i bought a mountain frame from doug in 2003, and it is very nice. i had the same experience, but the time was definitely longer than quoted. i was pretty much expecting this since it is a 1 man shop, but from start to finish i sent my deposit in june hand had my frame in mid october. that is the height of the season as well.gregdogg62 said:I placed my deposit, and about three weeks later I had the sketch. Total time to completion of bike was about 10 weeks. Longer than what he originally quoted, but it seems most builders are like that.