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I think it would replace the current Six13, Systems Six major improvement is for guys with big frame 58 and up, and this would prevent toptube and head tube being flex.
 

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Too bad Cannondale don't offer Campy version here for North America.
 

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Wow the new pricing for Systems six is way too much for Shimano set up, I rather have the frame and start build up with Campy Record grouppo.
 

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Price Too High

The price for Dura-Ace must include SRM. There is no way that a Dura-Ace equipped bike is $3000 more than an Ultegra-equipped bike.

However, the title of my post is missleading. I was hoping that the Ultegra-equipped System Six would come in around $3500 and I was interested in what SRAM-equipped bikes were going to cost.

I would not mind trying the SRAM stuff, but I will probably stick with Ultegra and wait a couple of years for SRAM to fine-tune their offerings (and price points).
 

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uscsig51 said:
Spoke with the LBS this afternoon, the System Six will start shipping in July and come in three main models:

Dura-Ace - $6,900
SRAM - $4,700
Ultegra - $3,700
Yikes! $6900 has to be a typo. Even $5900 would be a lot but closer to reality.

The Dura-Ace bike comes with Ksyrium ES wheels if I recall. But that still doesn't add up to the cost difference over the Ultegra bike.
 

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System 6 Pricing

The System 6 Dura-Ace bike (Team 1) will sell for $4799. The Sram Force bike (Team 2)will be $4999 and the Ultegra bike (Team 3) will be $3499. A Record bike will be available as soon as the NEW Record is available (probably the fall). Shimano equipped bikes will be available in the end of June and Sram bikes beginning of July.
 

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Do you have any info on the new Campy Record grouppo ?
 

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Monday - 06-06-06

Guess we will have to wait till Monday. I called 2 LBS and neither had any information. Both had to call their reps. to find out some information. The one shop is supposed to have the rep. coming by within the next two weeks with a demo.

Hopefully the wait is worth it. Six13 or SystemSix?
 

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If rumor is true they will stop making the Six13 and replace with Systems Six, there is no reason to offer two version of the same bike.
 

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My guess is Campy Record is offering aluminum compact crank ?
 

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Here is some System6 porn for ya. The Six13 will trickle down the Cannondale line for 2007 with the System6 becoming their flagship road rocket.

</span><div style="text-align: center;"><a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/1600/DSCF0003.3.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/400/DSCF0003.3.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><span style="font-family:arial;">New for 2007, the 100% USA made <a href="https://www.cannondale.com/systemsix">System 6</a>. A beautiful blend of carbon fiber and aluminum.
The official weight of the bike: stupid light
The price tag: in and around $4800



</span><a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/1600/DSCF0001.4.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/400/DSCF0001.4.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><span style="font-family:arial;">The carbon stem. Damn!



</span><a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/1600/DSCF0004.4.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/400/DSCF0004.4.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><span style="font-family:arial;">The ultra smooth point where carbon bonds to metal.


</span><a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/1600/DSCF0005.3.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/400/DSCF0005.3.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><span style="font-family:arial;">The front of the bike in a lovely shade of nude carbon.



</span><a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/1600/DSCF0006.3.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7047/443/400/DSCF0006.3.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><span style="font-family:arial;">And for good measure...how about some carbon brakes. Sweeeeet.
 

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Would those who have checked out or ridden a System Six say the ride quality feels more carbon fiber like, or is it more like a CAAD8, with a little more absorbancy on road vibrations? I'm trying to decide whether to wait for a System Six, or pull the trigger on a Synapse 1 Carbon (I know ..different geometry) I like both the CAAD8 Geometry and the Synapse. But I love the ride quality of the Synapse that much more. I ma 49, in good shape and do mostly group/club rides, distance rides and do not race. I'm 190 lbs and usually not ever below 180lbs. I prefer comfort, but with persformance and good climbing manners.

That said, the System Six will be a new '07 model and I like how it looks a lot. Very sexy bike. I also still want to check out a Six13, but I'm guessing the System Six might sell better having more Carbon and performance (from what I read) Thanks!
 

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If you have the time wait for Systems Six, since Cannondale had improve the stiffness on the new frame, but if you got a deal on Six13 don't pass it up.
 

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So when will we be able to start ordering one of these?


I dont understand how the sram stuff will be cheaper either, i just saw the prices and the prices i saw were way more expensive then DA. Maybe i got bad information though

*update* saw the prices the sram force is cheaper then the DA was looking at the wrong column
 

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I just spoke to a LBS about the System Six, this information is for Australia, so it may differ elsewhere.

I was told that availability would be late September, and a Ultegra equiped bike would be about $6,500 AUD, this compares to the Six13 Pro (carbon downtube only) for $4,500, or the Six13 Team (carbon top tube and downtube) for $5,700. On that basis a frame would be about $4,500 for the System Six.

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My short experience on a System6

Tuesday I stopped by my local LBS and the cannondale rep was there with his personal System6. He apparently was able to get a frame/fork earlier than getting a full bike, which he said suited him just fine since he threw on his record gruppo (except for the breaks which were the new cannondale carbons).
The thing that struck me was just how big all of the tubing is on this bike. All of the carbon, which he said was one piece, were absolutely huge, as were the forks. Which the rep claimed allowed for more strength while remaining light. When the bike shop owner asked if the rear was just a CAAD 8, the rep said it was, but it was modified. The larger tubing allowed for the welds to be further apart which in turn gives the seatstays an even more absorbant flex. As to the carbon, he told us that it actually tested at like 300% stiffer than the Six13...which he admitted scared him a bit for ride quality when he first learned it...but the ride spoke differently.
I got to ride it up some small rollers, some rough "cobble stonish" roads, and smooth pavement. The ride was INCREDIBLE! It flew up the hills and was smooth on the decents (I'd love to see it on some bigger hills at higher speeds), the absorbtion of the carbon and the seatstay's on the rough road were great, and overall I had the general feel that this bike just wanted to go. Unfortunately I didn't have my sidi's with me, so I wasn't able to really put any major torque on the bike, but one thing this ride did tell me...I WANT ONE!

I just wish that I could have had a day or two with the bike to put it through some serious hours of hard riding to really get the full feel...perhaps I can bribe the rep with my 555:idea:
 
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