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this is why they ask you to sign a waiver.

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logging is dangerous.
 

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The "log thing" is probably from the military.

If I get the story correctly, Air Force pararescue trainees perform an exercise where they carry a log wherever they go. The length of the log is such that it just barely slides into a bus they travel on (think school bus back door).

Navy SEAL trainees do something similar.

Not stuff kids should be doing.
 

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Back in the stone age, our coach had us do "head to head" drills. This was before people knew about concussions.
 

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The "log thing" is probably from the military.

If I get the story correctly, Air Force pararescue trainees perform an exercise where they carry a log wherever they go. The length of the log is such that it just barely slides into a bus they travel on (think school bus back door).

Navy SEAL trainees do something similar.

Not stuff kids should be doing.
Beat me to it. One of those military team/unit athletic building exercises.

Problem with using timber...almost all the weight in a tree trunk is water weight (maybe 75% in green timber). Evaporate most all the water, and you can lift a massive piece of wood easily by yourself. Meaning, depending on the tree and weather-the weight can vary quite literally by a ton.


For all the hand-wringing and sorrow over football-related injury....come September all the NCAA and NFL stadiums will be packed, and the HS football boosters in full swing.
 

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Back in the stone age, our coach had us do "head to head" drills. This was before people knew about concussions.
Same here. The coaches would congratulate us if we hit each other so hard, our helmets made a loud pop.

When guys got knocked out cold, they were considered to be cured when they were able to say what day it was, and accurately determine how many fingers the coach was holding up.
 

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we were admonished to not drink water during workouts in 95F temps.

it would give you 'cramps'...
 

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had nothing to do with football really

as stated, group log lifts are borrowed from the military as both exercise, team building and for the players themselves to figure out who isn't pulling their weight. It could have been any sport, hell it could have been Cross Fit.
Football is a dangerous game, but this had nothing to do with the game of football
 

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Beat me to it. One of those military team/unit athletic building exercises.

Problem with using timber...almost all the weight in a tree trunk is water weight (maybe 75% in green timber). Evaporate most all the water, and you can lift a massive piece of wood easily by yourself. Meaning, depending on the tree and weather-the weight can vary quite literally by a ton.
HOWEVER some wood is far heavier that other wood. For example, ironwood (eastern hop hornbeam is dense enough that even dry it doesn't float in water and while a cubic foot of green oak is much heavier than dry, a cubic foot of bone dry oak is heavier than a cubic foot of green pine. Still, it's a dumbass drill, hell if they are going to heft logs around, they can come help me harvest firewood!, I hardly ever get killed!
 

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HOWEVER some wood is far heavier that other wood. For example, ironwood (eastern hop hornbeam is dense enough that even dry it doesn't float in water and while a cubic foot of green oak is much heavier than dry, a cubic foot of bone dry oak is heavier than a cubic foot of green pine. Still, it's a dumbass drill, hell if they are going to heft logs around, they can come help me harvest firewood!, I hardly ever get killed!
One theater I worked at needed to move 30,000lbs of steel counterweight 80ft up onto their catwalk galleries for their fly system....they called the local college team's coach, and the team played fireman. One 30lb torch-cut steel brick at a time.
 

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Parents sign a waiver to absolve everybody under the sun against liability. Hell, we signed one for our son's (entering his senior year now) cross country that essentially releases the school from liability for any type of injury sustained from any kind of activity. It even stated something to the effect that such extracurricular activities carry risk of injury or death.

Carrying a log over one's head still seems infinitely stupid.
 

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Exactly.

For all the hand-wringing and sorrow over football-related injury....come September all the NCAA and NFL stadiums will be packed, and the HS football boosters in full swing.
Yep, my subscription for the U.S. College Sports package renews automatically... so I'm ready. I can get enough NFL through the networks that I'm not willing to pay for that package. But then again, I haven't been doing any hand-wringing.
 

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We were given "salt pills".
 

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had nothing to do with football really
..., but this had nothing to do with the game of football
I'll respectfully disagree. Football has a history of macho behaviors including certain training exercises with tough guy names like "suicide drills" etc.; just read the other posts about the helmet hitting during drills.

You can train hard yet be safe.
 

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I would bet that within 20 years, high school football will disappear, and the NFL will be waning.
Kids regularly getting killed on-field during regular-play didn't stop collegiate football in the 1900s. The NCAA was founded in 1905 as a result of Teddy Roosevelt capitalizing on 25 player deaths that season.
 

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I'll respectfully disagree. Football has a history of macho behaviors including certain training exercises with tough guy names like "suicide drills" etc.; just read the other posts about the helmet hitting during drills.

You can train hard yet be safe.
Bull in the Ring, Pick and Stick....
I am familiar with the drills, I was a defensive end. My team had white helmets and we'd collect 'stick marks' on them. Paint from the other teams helmets leaving streaks on the white and the bigger they were, and the more you had was a sign of status.

We also had gnarly drills in wrestling, water polo and crew. All had tough guy names. Hell Week was double sessions of Water Polo. I broke a guys nose in water polo, so head to head contact (no helmet) happens in other sports as well. In wrestling they'd make the smaller guys carry the heavyweights around the mat. Not quite a log, but 240 lbs falling on you is gonna hurt
 

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... broke a guys nose in water polo, so ... happens in other sports as well...
i sorta know what you mean.

i got my mom's eyes and nose. got the cauliflower ear from dad.
 

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I'll respectfully disagree. Football has a history of macho behaviors including certain training exercises with tough guy names like "suicide drills" etc.; just read the other posts about the helmet hitting during drills.

You can train hard yet be safe.
Suicide drills and other training techniques with similar "macho" names were done by the basketball and baseball teams at my high school, wasn't just us football players doing it. The cheerleading coach at out school had those girls doing things that made just about anything we were doing on the football field during practice seem safe in comparison. Everything is potentially dangerous. Riding a sub-20 lb. vehicle amongst cars and trucks wearing spandex and a little plastic lid that just covers the top of your head certainly doesn't sound safe to me... but it's fun.
 
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