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And everyone pissed and moaned when SBUX didn't have for-free, for-everyone Wifi... this was why.

Granted it was mostly to discourage people from staying to get more transactions / hr, but the point is kind of the same, isn't it?

Independent coffee shops I have seen in Seattle, where it's actually crowded, have taken to "no wifi weekends."

Funny, though, the 2 indy shops that I go to that have wifi, well, they "have wifi." The 3g on my iphone is usually faster...

nismo73 said:
I've seen this problem at a Starbucks I've been to. A bunch of tables are taken up by one person w/ a laptop and their grande latte. It wasn't coffee shop atmosphere, more like a library - plus they were hoggin' all the tables!

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/08/business/la-fi-cafe-wifi-20100808
 

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Why don't bars offer Wi-Fi? It's always more fun to post drunk.
 

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Wow, people suck. 8 hours on one cup of mud just to milk the free Wi-fi for all it's worth?

Damn.
 

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I don't get why those people don't just sit out in there car on their laptop drinking their coffee. Obviously they aren't there to socialize.. go outside and wap while you frap?
 

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nismo73 said:
I've seen this problem at a Starbucks I've been to. A bunch of tables are taken up by one person w/ a laptop and their grande latte. It wasn't coffee shop atmosphere, more like a library - plus they were hoggin' all the tables!

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/08/business/la-fi-cafe-wifi-20100808
They can solve the problem of wifi freeloaders by giving the 1st 1/2 hour free and then charging for additional time.
 

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old_fuji said:
Wow, people suck. 8 hours on one cup of mud just to milk the free Wi-fi for all it's worth?

Damn.
+1, have to agree. The local coffee joint makes bank on me when I use their WiFi... I drink 2 or 3 cups and get 2 or 3 things to eat while I'm there studying. $15 later...

When I am there without WiFi, I actually tend to spend a lot less - working harder, I guess.
 

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The number one el awesome-o coffee place in Davis is Mishka's, and they've had severe problems with the wi-fi squatters... basically all the UC Davis students come in and study and do internet all day, and never give up their table.

So Mishka's has reserved a section of the place for "NO laptop usage... period."
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MG537 said:
They can solve the problem of wifi freeloaders by giving the 1st 1/2 hour free and then charging for additional time.
That would work. Though I'd like it better if it were the first hour for free.
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Now, if people would stop driving while talking on the cell phone, checking out at the grocery store while talking on the cell phone........
driving while using a cellphone. The Provincial police laid 2000 charges last long weekend
 

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Very simple, the store manager needs to go over and ask them to move on. People are parasites, they'll use a free resource to the best of their ability unless told to do otherwise.

We have a pretty cool restaurant which offers free wifi. You order at a counter and then go find a table. I see it at every dinner rush - parties of three or four people wandering around with trays in their hands looking for somewhere to sit while the 4-top tables are consumed by someone with a cup of coffee, a glass of water and some plate that probably held a bagel 5 hours ago.

My Lovely Wife and I went in on one busy night and the only thing open was a 6-top. We reluctantly sat there but the second a 2-top opened we bused the table ourselves and moved. The manager saw this and gave us both free desert. While we were thanking him, a guy came in alone, took the 6-top opened his computer, put on his headphones and went to work on his coffee. Never mind that there were open seats at the "bar" which is designed for guys like him.

It's just the latest symptom in our "I want everyone to like" me culture. Managers are too worried about offending someone abusing the privilege to say anything. Mix that with people who lack manners and an understanding of what it takes to exist in a culture and the natural result is cash paying customers taking their business elsewhere.
 

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Gee, if you can't stand the Wi Fi freeloaders or you can't find a table because of them...Go somewhere else. Free Market.

Here's a similar case, but without the alternative to go somewhere else to avoid the "poor citizenship" of the self-centered...

The tourist drivers who slow waaaay down on bridges across the Columbia River in the Gorge...Taking advantage of the veiw...without having to park and get out.... I encounter them crossing below the Dalles dam, where a bridge with a 45mph speed limit parallels the dam. Huge parking lots on both ends and big signs advertising Guided tours of the dam...but No-oo, they gotta slow down to about 10mph and hang out of their 'bagos or SUVs and stick their smart phone cameras out the window to get a snap...Heaven forbid they might park and actually get their vehicle out of the road...and even maybe walk...? back on the large sidewalk on the bridge and maybe watch a barge go through the locks or watch all that water crashing down the spillways...

If I could find another way across the river...but the nearest bridges, one at the Dalles and one at Hood River, are about equidistant from my residence on the Washington side..and the next alternatives are 30miles beyond...and also fraught with "lookie-Lous"..m
Most of the larger businesses are on the Oregon side...something to do with tax structure, I guess. So, same deal...rather than use the bridge then look at the veiw after crossing...they make the crossing take forever, just like the coffee shop crowd who makes a latte take all morning while they check out the veiw on Fecebook or Twiddlede de...while everyone who needs to cross that bridge has to wait for them to finish..
 

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terry b said:
It's just the latest symptom in our "I want everyone to like" me culture. Managers are too worried about offending someone abusing the privilege to say anything. Mix that with people who lack manners and an understanding of what it takes to exist in a culture and the natural result is cash paying customers taking their business elsewhere.
Agreed. It's like people don't even think how their actions will affect others anymore.
 

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Sorry, I'm often one of those people.

Though really, I think free wifi users are the main market segment for a couple coffee shops in town.
 
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