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So I'm building a retro sort of wheelset with 36-spoke silver Campy hubs and Ambrosio aluminum box rims. Thinking 2.0/1.5/2.0 spokes will be OK for my 175 lbs. but my questions are 1) 3-cross or 4-cross lacing? and 2) 2/1.8/2 spokes for the rear drive side?
 

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velojon said:
So I'm building a retro sort of wheelset with 36-spoke silver Campy hubs and Ambrosio aluminum box rims. Thinking 2.0/1.5/2.0 spokes will be OK for my 175 lbs. but my questions are 1) 3-cross or 4-cross lacing? and 2) 2/1.8/2 spokes for the rear drive side?
I would probably go 3-cross with 2.0/1.8/2.0 spokes on the rear drive side.

Do you know the flange diameter of the rear hub?
 

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velojon said:
So I'm building a retro sort of wheelset with 36-spoke silver Campy hubs and Ambrosio aluminum box rims. Thinking 2.0/1.5/2.0 spokes will be OK for my 175 lbs. but my questions are 1) 3-cross or 4-cross lacing? and 2) 2/1.8/2 spokes for the rear drive side?
Any quality spoke will do fine in the strength department. Jobst Brandt reports 100K miles on 1.8/1.6mm spokes. I'm at 14 years and two rim swaps on each wheel due to crash/pot-hole damage on DT 2.0/1.5 front+non-drive side and 2.0/1.8 drive side with weights up to 225 pounds (riding with a back-pack sucks).

Do consider 1.8/1.6mm spokes all around instead - they're more pleasant to work with because they're 30% stiffer torsionally than 1.5mm and the 1.8mm thread imparts less torque than 2.0mm.

3-cross assuming you have low flange hubs.
 

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Thanks. Who makes 1.8/1.6mm spokes? Have only seen DT and Sapim spokes in 2/1.8 and 2/1.5 sizes.
 

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velojon said:
Thanks. Who makes 1.8/1.6mm spokes? Have only seen DT and Sapim spokes in 2/1.8 and 2/1.5 sizes.
DT, Wheelsmith, etc.

Spokes are sometimes listed by gauge.

Using American wire gauges:

2/1.8mm are 14/15 gauge double-butted
1.8/1.6mm are 15/16 gauge double-butted
2.0/1.5mm are 14/17 gauge double-butted
 

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15/16 source

Drew Eckhardt said:
DT, Wheelsmith, etc.

Spokes are sometimes listed by gauge.

Using American wire gauges:

2/1.8mm are 14/15 gauge double-butted
1.8/1.6mm are 15/16 gauge double-butted
2.0/1.5mm are 14/17 gauge double-butted
Though 15/16 are functional spokes and work well (especially in a classic, 32 spoke 3X build) they are not readily available in many locations. QBP does not stock them.
 
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