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Going to be purchasing some parts for a new wheels build, and am having trouble deciding which to get. For those of you with either or both, please chime in. Thanks in advance.

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I think the H plus are more robust, but I prefer the Pacenti for ease of build. I built 3 sets of each and had a couple of Alu nipples go bad on the H Plus rims during the build process on every rim. It was like the holes were rough. No issues on the Pacenti.
 

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I built with the H Plus Archetype's when they first came out and was pretty impressed by their quality. No issues with the build whatsoever. The build has a number of kilometres on it now and they've held up well. I used brass nipples for the build FWIW. Given that I already have used the H Plus, I would probably go with the Pacenti's for my next build.
 

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The Archetype has slightly grabbier braking than the SL23. A bit nicer finish IMO but that's totally subjective.

All in all, I think the Pacenti is a more versatile hoop. The ride quality between the two is quite similar though.

Improving the quality of the ride is primarily what I'm looking for. Not to mention a little weight savings in the process :)

It's also my understanding that the Pacenti's are a touch lighter as a set as well.
 

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I have a set of the SL23 and love them. They are 50 grams lighter than the H+Sons too if your into the whole weight weenie thing. Translates to about 5% less energy to get them up to speed (not that 99% of us could ever tell...) The H+ are damn sexy though.
 

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no experience with the H Plus, but I have the sl23 and they are a great rim except for the mounting a tire which is a real PITA. Got my 1st flat today after the new tires had been used and stretched a bit and it was still a PITA to seat the tire especially in 95 degree 78 percent dewpoint weather. If your going to use them with tubes and a training wheel year round I would keep that in mind. I also took the wheel to the wheel builder and he had just as difficult time mounting the tire, I thought I was doing something wrong but he mounted it the same way I did.I'm in NJ and probably won't use the wheels in the winter. Just my .02$ look at my post in another thread epic battle pacenti vs and you will see what I mean.
 

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I have the bits for a Placenti build on order now. So will report later on any tire mounting issues.
 

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I wonder if Kirk (Pacenti) has heard about these tire mounting issues, and has any plans to slightly revise the rims in the future in response? :nonod:

It's definitely an issue that's starting to shy me away from purchasing them (actually the PL23s, which are the box-section version, but with a very similar shape where the tire is seated).
 

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no experience with the H Plus, but I have the sl23 and they are a great rim except for the mounting a tire which is a real PITA. Got my 1st flat today after the new tires had been used and stretched a bit and it was still a PITA to seat the tire especially in 95 degree 78 percent dewpoint weather. If your going to use them with tubes and a training wheel year round I would keep that in mind. I also took the wheel to the wheel builder and he had just as difficult time mounting the tire, I thought I was doing something wrong but he mounted it the same way I did.I'm in NJ and probably won't use the wheels in the winter. Just my .02$ look at my post in another thread epic battle pacenti vs and you will see what I mean.
Thanks for the info. I've been reading more about the mounting issues, and I'm starting to have second thoughts about them. We often have triple digit heat here and sitting around on the side of the road when its 106 isn't fun. I'd almost rather go with the H Son's and more or less be problem free.
 
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