How fast did TOC breakaway (Voigt, Leipheimer, etc.) climb Palomar? Anyone timed them or has average speed? It will be interesting to compare...
That time (~58-59 min) is pretty pedestrian for these guys. It was a strange climb in some sense - you had big guys like Voigt at the front, with Zabriskie and others - yet Leipheimer was isolated - Armstrong, Rubiera, Popo and Brajkovic couldn't help him out and got dropped. Then you have Vande Velde who was struggling too, and Hamilton was way back in autobus. Rodriguez was way behind autobus and probably dropped out on the way down.bigpinkt said:They passed me right about 1:17 and I was about 1 minute up from Jilbertos. I checked my watch because we were trying to estimate what time they would hit Cole Grade. A buddy of mine call me on my cell right as they were hitting the top of the climb at 2:15.
the large discrepancy in the times reported here (under 50 min, 58-59 min) must be due to the large uncertainty of where the start/end of the climb is.zphogan said:Heard a radio interview from AEG's Andrew Messick and he said the Leipheimer/Voigt group did the climb in just under 50 minutes, which would put them somewhere between that 13.6/16.8 mph estimate. Thats pretty impressive speed. To put that in perspective, I did the climb earlier in the morning (feeling pretty good) and did it in one hour and 14 minutes. Crazy how much faster pro tour guys are than the average joe.
I think that is correct. I am not sure what Messick used but the race bible had the climb starting at the turn, which is about 1/3 of the way up. Most measure store to store, or stop sign. I think that others were measuring from the feed, which was about 10 minutes up from the first store.55x11 said:the large discrepancy in the times reported here (under 50 min, 58-59 min) must be due to the large uncertainty of where the start/end of the climb is.
Vande Velde was doing around 5.5W/kg on the final climbs at the tour last year while staying in contact with the other contendors, that's a hard pace for a GC guy, as opposed to a rider who is going just for the stage win.stevesbike said:5.22 watts/kg on that climb in the middle of a stage isn't too unrealistic. Larsson (the Saxo rider velonews posted power data for) did 5.4 watts/kg on Bonny Doon, half the length of Palomar (and he was trying to bridge up). He just hit 6 watts/kg in the time trial (he got 3rd), so I wouldn't be expecting anyone this time of year to be be doing much more. Also, Vande Velde was doing around 6 watts on the final climbs last year at the Tour. 6 is more like it for peak form on anything other than a short TT. That extra 1 watt/kg is bordering on non-physiological (like Ricco's numbers last year on climbs at the Tour...)