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Only a few? Competitive Cyclist sells over 125 pedals on their website. Over 80 of those are two-sided pedals that are really quick and easy to clip into.



You're probably right. Clipping into ordinary pedals is so difficult, it likely took a former pro rider 4 or 5 attempts to successfully do it.
I just glanced over at Competitive cyclist, as far as clip-less pedals that I'm dealing with, they do not have that many different versions of pedals. They are basically Shiamano/LooK or the lollipop or egg beater. I still think that there is room for one more that is highly competitive in pricing and is the easiest to learn and continue to use.

As a for instance in the Red Bull Bay Climb a group stops from a dead stop and races straight up hill. For this particular race to get in quickly would be a benefit.
 

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As a for instance in the Red Bull Bay Climb a group stops from a dead stop and races straight up hill. For this particular race to get in quickly would be a benefit.
You might want to check out videos from that race. It's definitely not won at the start line.

Now, about that pro needing 4 or 5 attempts to clip in ...
 

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You might want to check out videos from that race. It's definitely not won at the start line.

Now, about that pro needing 4 or 5 attempts to clip in ...
You and I, it appears are going to have a lot of fun. Everything that you lose at the start you have to make back up at the finish. That is a fact and not an opinion :)

You nor I have any idea if that was 1 take, or 2 or 3. I can even tell you on our pedals with 360 degree entry it is possible to miss the clip, if you are thinking about the awesome Ferrari.
 

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Everything that you lose at the start you have to make back up at the finish. That is a fact and not an opinion :)
You haven't watched the videos of the race, have you?

You nor I have any idea if that was 1 take, or 2 or 3. I can even tell you on our pedals with 360 degree entry it is possible to miss the clip, if you are thinking about the awesome Ferrari.
Huh?
 

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You nor I have any idea if that was 1 take, or 2 or 3. I can even tell you on our pedals with 360 degree entry it is possible to miss the clip, if you are thinking about the awesome Ferrari.
I'm 99.999% sure that was done on 1 take. Because.... that is how easy SPD pedals work. We've done and witnessed it countless times. Decades of experience.

We have no idea if your Pitbull videos were 1, 2, or 10 takes. (see how your silly game works)
I see no evidence that it's impossible to miss your clip.
 

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You haven't watched the videos of the race, have you?



Huh?
Absolutely, that is how I found it.

I missed the typing the words next to. My bad.


I'm 99.999% sure that was done on 1 take. Because.... that is how easy SPD pedals work. We've done and witnessed it countless times. Decades of experience.

We have no idea if your Pitbull videos were 1, 2, or 10 takes. (see how your silly game works)
I see no evidence that it's impossible to miss your clip.

Like I had said in a quote earlier, there is a chance that you can miss the pedal. It is so easy to get into that you would almost have to miss it intentionally. You simply set your toe on the pedal and as your foot rolls forward the pedal simply engages. Nothing to line up.

As far as takes and videos I guess that would be everyone's secret.
 

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Some good news, I just stopped by our local bike shop and I do believe that I have one of the employees to make a non-biased video with us on Sunday at some point. If all goes well we will be able to share the video early in the week.
 

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As a for instance in the Red Bull Bay Climb a group stops from a dead stop and races straight up hill. For this particular race to get in quickly would be a benefit.
Maybe you can point to a video where clip-in time made a difference.
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There isn't really much that I can say with your theory.
It's not my theory. You cited this particular race as one where clip-in time matters. Can you point to a video of this race that supports your claim?
 

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You, as a customer, asked an employee to make a video. Presumably, you will be present. At the very least, the employee will be delivering the video to you and knows it’s intended to promote your product. Did I mention you’re a customer?

That word [non-biased], I don’t think it means what you think it means.
 

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based on numerous threads and comments, this product has little to no support among RBR members.

so, why does the developer insist on coming here to promote it...?

it's becoming tedious. seems like an intelligent person would note the overwhelmingly negative sentiments and go elsewhere to hawk their so-called 'fastest pedal'...as if anyone anywhere would care about that marketing hype.
 

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based on numerous threads and comments, this product has little to no support among RBR members.

so, why does the developer insist on coming here to promote it...?
Masochism?
 

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It's not my theory. You cited this particular race as one where clip-in time matters. Can you point to a video of this race that supports your claim?
I appreciate the thought, I just cannot find any reason why it wouldn't be good to be in the lead immediately based off of your equipment. But obviously the best place to be in the lead is at the end of any race.


You, as a customer, asked an employee to make a video. Presumably, you will be present. At the very least, the employee will be delivering the video to you and knows it’s intended to promote your product. Did I mention you’re a customer?

That word [non-biased], I don’t think it means what you think it means.
There is nothing more that I can say other than if I have gone to a local bike shop and got their A rider to do a test ride for me, and I can give you an un-edited video. That is the best I can do. It was suppose to be done this weekend, but the gentleman had a family health issue and was not able to meet with us.

based on numerous threads and comments, this product has little to no support among RBR members.

so, why does the developer insist on coming here to promote it...?

it's becoming tedious. seems like an intelligent person would note the overwhelmingly negative sentiments and go elsewhere to hawk their so-called 'fastest pedal'...as if anyone anywhere would care about that marketing hype.
You know what everyone says about opinions

Masochism?
Definitely not a masochist, it just seems like we have quite a few pessimists vs optimists. The US is a huge area and we are not trying to corner the market.
 

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The US is a huge area and we are not trying to corner the market.
As I mentioned pages ago... I work with (mostly large) companies as they build, test, research, market new brands. I've never seen a company seek to win every customer. But (and it's a big but) when these companies test product/positioning concepts with the target audience (based on psychographics - not just demographics), and see feedback like you're seeing in this "focus group" - EVERY product team I've worked with would cut their losses, and move to the next idea in the "innovation pipeline."

You've had hundreds of views - opportunities to comment - on your concept, and literally NO ONE has signaled an intent to purchase. I wonder if you're dismissing this because it was free. If you'd paid the $100,000++ it would've taken to get this kind of consumer insight, would it have had more of an impact?
 

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As I mentioned pages ago... I work with (mostly large) companies as they build, test, research, market new brands. I've never seen a company seek to win every customer. But (and it's a big but) when these companies test product/positioning concepts with the target audience (based on psychographics - not just demographics), and see feedback like you're seeing in this "focus group" - EVERY product team I've worked with would cut their losses, and move to the next idea in the "innovation pipeline."

You've had hundreds of views - opportunities to comment - on your concept, and literally NO ONE has signaled an intent to purchase. I wonder if you're dismissing this because it was free. If you'd paid the $100,000++ it would've taken to get this kind of consumer insight, would it have had more of an impact?
You are correct that many people have seen this ongoing thread. But I do believe that it is the same 5 or 6 people that keep regurgitating the same negative thoughts. I have tried to respond to all of them with the best of my ability. The pedal has not even been manufactured yet, and I believe that everyone understands that there are none to buy at this time. Also like you have mentioned, I'm not trying to win every customer. But the US is a large area and I'm not trying to put one of my pedals on every road bike. We just came up with an idea and have perfected it down to the simplest and quickest to engage. Also we do believe that the pricing can be extremely competitive in the market. We have truly listened to every person that has communicated with us and have tried to give honest answers in every response.

As far as the $100k+ financial gain in customer insight, I really never thought of it that way as I was just getting on a bike forum and having a discussion. We do spend money on FB ads every week across the country to prepare for the Oct. crowdsourcing campaign. Only time will tell.

Thanks for the input.
 
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