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Considering how well he's been riding this year in the TT's, will he be going for the rainbow jersey? If he's on form like he has been this year, can he honestly be beaten? I don't recall because I didn't see it, but did he ride for it last year?

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yes he should

he's by far and away one of the worlds top TTers. He has a definite shot. If I was Bjarne I'd rest him after the tour and build a peak for the worlds
 

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he's by far and away one of the worlds top TTers. He has a definite shot. If I was Bjarne I'd rest him after the tour and build a peak for the worlds
I'm sure he'll decide not to do it like all the best tt riders, and then ole Jack-ass Mick Rogers will come blowing through and grab another (not really earned) tt title.....
 

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I'm sure he'll decide not to do it like all the best tt riders, and then ole Jack-ass Mick Rogers will come blowing through and grab another (not really earned) tt title.....
Like that Armstrong guy at the Tour de France. Sure he beat those few (~200) who entered but how do we know there wasn't someone out there (3+ billion) who wouldn't have beaten him?
 

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I'm sure he'll decide not to do it like all the best tt riders, and then ole Jack-ass Mick Rogers will come blowing through and grab another (not really earned) tt title.....
Forgive my ignorance, but how come the best TT guys don't try and go for the rainbow jersey in their discipline? In this age of specialization, you figure that this would be one hell of a prize (next to Grand Tour TT stage wins) for time trial specialists like Zabriskie, since most (not all obviously) are not GC contenders or Classics specialists.
 

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Forgive my ignorance, but how come the best TT guys don't try and go for the rainbow jersey in their discipline? In this age of specialization, you figure that this would be one hell of a prize (next to Grand Tour TT stage wins) for time trial specialists like Zabriskie, since most (not all obviously) are not GC contenders or Classics specialists.

From what I can gather (aka, estimate) boss Riis likes his people rest and racing on a very particular schedule and the world tt champs at th end of the year are not in the cards for Dave Z. Plus he's someone who gets a lot of race days every year and usually decides to end the season way before then.

If the world champs didn't fall at such an odd point in the year you would see more people like Dave there.

as for asgelle:

There is a world of difference, you asshat, between Armstrong who wins and wins and wins when he races, and someone like Rogers who doesn't win all year and then gets the title of world champ. Its not the same situation at all.
 

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There is a world of difference, you asshat, between Armstrong who wins and wins and wins when he races, and someone like Rogers who doesn't win all year and then gets the title of world champ. Its not the same situation at all.
Rogers beat every single rider who showed up for the competition which was open to every rider from a UCI recognized country. If that doesn't define a world champion, I don't know what does. Everything else is coulda, shoulda, woulda.

You do realize that entries to world championships are chosen by the rider's country, not trade team, right? Riis can not control whether Zabriskie rides or not.
 

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The problem is that arguably the two best TTers of recent years were also the two best GC riders, and they weren't worried about racing after July. See if you can guess who i'm talking about.

Same goes for most American riders actually.
 

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Once again, you just don't get it. Its not like riding the world champs is compulsory.... And Einstruzende said it perfectly, and I will extend it to say that outside of Dave Z most of the best tt riders right now are also GC riders who could care less about some race at the end of the fall.

Go back and look at the results from last years TT championship race and you will see what I mean. I know its hard to beat the fine TT riders of Norway and South Africa but he manages to do it every year. How can you call yourself the best TT rider when you are not facing the best in the world? I would say that even though a Floyd Landis has never been the US champ he could still be 99% (if not 100%) of the field that day.

Its like when a big name rider shows up at some small race filled with continental teams and WOW, SURPRISE smokes the whole field. Wow he really managed to ride right past the whole of the team LPR. Whoopie

Watch Rogers in any major Pro Tour race and what do you see....?
 

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How can you call yourself the best TT rider when you are not facing the best in the world?
Go back, read the words (you can move your lips if you have to), and stop making up things I never said. Here I'll help you,
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and then ole Jack-ass Mick Rogers will come blowing through and grab another (not really earned) tt title.....
Now where in there do you see anything about being the best TT rider? So tell me, how else can you earn a title than by beating everyone else who shows up?
 

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Well you can't blame Mick Rogers, he did what he had to do. The disappointment is that the field wasn't as strong as it could have been. Again, what other TTs does he win?

For reference, we have current road WC Tom Boonen. He had to face the best sprinters. Petacchi, McEwen, Bettini. AND, he wins damn near everything he sprints for with the stripes on.

The shame of it is that it is the fault of Americans for the most part. Afterall, most are exceptionally strong TTers (Zabriske, Landis, Leipheimer, Julich, Armstrong, and even Hincapie). Throw in Jan Ullrich and you damn near have the "elite" field.
 

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Well you can't blame Mick Rogers, he did what he had to do. The disappointment is that the field wasn't as strong as it could have been. Again, what other TTs does he win?

For reference, we have current road WC Tom Boonen. He had to face the best sprinters. Petacchi, McEwen, Bettini. AND, he wins damn near everything he sprints for with the stripes on.

The shame of it is that it is the fault of Americans for the most part. Afterall, most are exceptionally strong TTers (Zabriske, Landis, Leipheimer, Julich, Armstrong, and even Hincapie). Throw in Jan Ullrich and you damn near have the "elite" field.

exactly... now lets all have a big group hug.
 

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Dave Z didn't race at the worlds last year because tripped while leaving a resturaunt towards the end of the season. He fell right through the glass doors, shattering them, and cutting up his leg pretty bad in the proccess.

This years worlds is on his schedule. If he can manage to not fall off his bike or out a window.
 
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