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169.06 MN subdivision 9

In a nutshell; in MN we have stop lights that don't change if there aren't cars waiting. There are loops installed under the pavement that detect a certain amount of metal, and this technology will not recognize a motorcycle.

so the law allows Motorcycles to effectively run a red light, provided they stopped first, and there is no oncomming traffic.

Well... bicycles also fail to trigger lights. Me, I run em in the morning, otherwise I'd have to wait a looong time for a motorist to find me at 6:00am.

In the evenings, there is enough traffic that there will *usually* be a car next to me, or facing me, so not an issue.

Of course, this leapfrogs into the whole issue of motorists getting pissed off at bikers for running red lights...

Yo no fui.
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What an interesting provision. It probably dosn't apply to bicycles (although it should) if elsewhere in the statutes, a distinciton is made between motorcycles and bicycles.

Subd. 9. Affirmative defense relating to unchanging traffic-control signal. (a) A person
operating a motorcycle who violates subdivision 4 by entering or crossing an intersection
controlled by a traffic-control signal against a red light has an affirmative defense to that charge if the person establishes all of the following conditions:
(1) the motorcycle has been brought to a complete stop;
(2) the traffic-control signal continues to show a red light for an unreasonable time;
(3) the traffic-control signal is apparently malfunctioning or, if programmed or engineered
to change to a green light only after detecting the approach of a motor vehicle, the signal has apparently failed to detect the arrival of the motorcycle; and
(4) no motor vehicle or person is approaching on the street or highway to be crossed or
entered or is so far away from the intersection that it does not constitute an immediate hazard.
(b) The affirmative defense in this subdivision applies only to a violation for entering or
crossing an intersection controlled by a traffic-control signal against a red light and does not provide a defense to any other civil or criminal action.

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I believe somewhere in the motor vehicle code you will find the procedure for a malfunctioning stop light. If the light does not sense a vehicle's presence (as it designed to do), then it is malfunctioning. - TF
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