[ogre]

What do you all think of this? Combines 3 groupsets and will eventually eliminate a fourth. Personally, I ride 105 or XT and higher, so this won't affect me. But from an industry approach, this makes sense and will be a blessing for bike shops. Greatly simplifies compatibility (and inventory) across 9, 10 and 11 speeds. Focuses on 1x, has 2x, but no more triples. You'll be able to easily make an MTB setup with drop bars. Linkglide shifting allows compability with eBikes.


Shimano Cues kills off Alivio, Acera and Altus, with Tiagra to be phased out

New Shimano CUES 9, 10, and 11-speed drivetrains are Cross-compatible

I think it's a step in the right direction.

 

[duriel]

I doubt any of those groupo's can match the range of a triple, so I'm ag'in it!
I presently have triples on 4 of my bikes, 2 with road bars. Tourer's are going to be with me.

 

[ogre]

I doubt any of those groupo's can match the range of a triple, so I'm ag'in it!

They're going to have a 50T cassette, and I'm pretty sure you can get a 22T up front, if not lower.

 

[duriel]

I said 'range', what is the top gear?

 

[cxwrench]

I doubt any of those groupo's can match the range of a triple, so I'm ag'in it!
I presently have triples on 4 of my bikes, 2 with road bars. Tourer's are going to be with me.

Groupo's what? Tourer's what? How do you think any of us believe you're smart enough to know what you're talking about when you can't master elementary school grammar and punctuation?

 

[craiger_ny]

I like close ratios and I know how to shift so 1X isn't really appealing to me. I am surprised though by the number of riders with poor shifting discipline and there are plenty of people not phased by ratio jumps that bother me and the range is there so 1X is absolutely a lucrative pursuit for manufacturers. Commonizing pull ratios and spacing I like the idea of. I guess the future of my touring bicycle drive trains will tell so I'll see where I find myself when I get there but it's hard to imagine not having a triple on my touring bike.

 

[duriel]

The range isn't there, that is the point of my comment's!!!!!
As stated before I have triples on 4 of my bikes and on almost every ride I use every gear high to low.

 

[cxwrench]

The range isn't there, that is the point of my comment's!!!!!
As stated before I have triples on 4 of my bikes and on almost every ride I use every gear high to low.

Your comment's what?

 

[ljvb]

So.. they combine 3 (soon to be 4) ranges into a single range.. with 3 models within that range.... so.. really nothing has changed.

 

[duriel]

I think Tiagra is a triple, so no, not 3 ranges. They decided to combine some groupo's, and drop the triples. It's not that complicated.

 

[ogre]

So.. they combine 3 (soon to be 4) ranges into a single range.. with 3 models within that range.... so.. really nothing has changed.

But everything is interchangeable. Every shifter will work with 9, 10 or 11 speed, between analog and eBikes, you can mix mtb components with road shifters. Chances are much better that a shop has the needed inventory in stock to get someone riding.

 

[duriel]

Well, that would be for 'new' components. The components on "your" bike still may or may not be compatible.
I agree that there is no reason for everything to be different, but that decision was made years ago, and for some reason they are changing it all again. Probably to sell more stuff.

 

[velodog]

Well, that would be for 'new' components. The components on "your" bike still may or may not be compatible.
I agree that there is no reason for everything to be different, but that decision was made years ago, and for some reason they are changing it all again. Probably to sell more stuff.

Probably????

 

[xxl]

Your comment's what?

Exclamation points, apparently.

 

[Lombard]

I doubt any of those groupo's can match the range of a triple, so I'm ag'in it!
I presently have triples on 4 of my bikes, 2 with road bars. Tourer's are going to be with me.

Better start hoarding some new/old stock so it won't matter!

 

[duriel]

OK, My Santa Cruz triple has a 22-42 chainrings, 11-36 cassette. high:11/42=3.3 low:36/22=.611 range: 3.8/.61=624% range. Match that with a double or X1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One would think a seasoned pro mech would be able to figure these thing's out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BonusPoints: ' & !!!!!!

 

[Paceliner]

I think the whole concept of CUES being 9-10-11 speed compatible between mountain and road components is very, very smart. No doubt the parts in this system will be heavier than 12-speed road component offerings, but I also suspect that they will be very durable as well. I certainly hope that all the road components come to fruition. Just look at what the pros raced on in recent decades past--this new CUES line should be at least as good as top-tier parts from 20-30 years ago, and a lot of parts from that era were VERY durable.

 

[Jwiffle]

I like it. The interchangeable components across will be nice. Will take a few years, probably, to become common, but a good move in the long run.

However, the name Cues is stupid, lol.

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