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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/jul08/jul29news3

In the paragraph titled "Future for Gerolsteiner", it is mentioned that Stefan Shumacher is rumored to have offers from Garmin and Columbia.

Garmin doesn't really have a guy for the Ardennes classics, so perhaps that's how he'd fit in with the team, aside from going for stage wins in GTs.
 

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iliveonnitro said:
I will hate Garmin-Chipotle if they sign him. Schumacher is the antithesis of the Slipstream mantra.

I can empathize with what your saying... a lot of people are surprised by the fact that Schumacher was able to put it to Cancellara twice, sandwiched around a couple forays off the front in the Alps. That said, he hasn't been popped yet (that I know of), and I think Vaughters has a lot of credibility at stake, and will do his due diligence on any signing he makes. Schumi would be forced to fall in line, as it were, if he isn't already there. My 2 cents.
 

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iliveonnitro said:
I will hate Garmin-Chipotle if they sign him. Schumacher is the antithesis of the Slipstream mantra.
please elaborate. Are you accusing him of being a doper just because he beat Cancellara twice in one grand tour? Is that your only evidence? Cancellara had to work pretty hard this tour and could've been tired, especially for the second TT. I remember the commentators even saying that Fabian has had a more difficult time in the TdF TTs. Even though he won the two time trials, he couldn't pull anything off in the mountains. I liked the guy in the tour. He at least made things interesting. And he doesn't come off as a pompous prick in his interviews.
 

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Why are the Gerolsteiner guys say mutant looking? Kohl with his grill and bizzare head movements, Schumi with his non helmet conforming melon, and don't forget Levi and his premature balding. Maybe it's best the sponsor is leaving, there is obviously something in their water.
 

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Giro needs to develop a full-face time trial helmet for Schumi if he goes to Garmin. That is one ugly dude with one monstrous cabeza.
Specialized actually. What I found weird was that the guy always had a pair of sunglasses (except TTs) but never wore them. They were always on the back of his head.
 

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iliveonnitro said:
I will hate Garmin-Chipotle if they sign him. Schumacher is the antithesis of the Slipstream mantra.
Schumacher is definitely a guy who I think has a few question marks around him:

2005 - Tests positive for cathine and takes a suspension, but gets off somehow because his MD mother prescribed for him and he made a mistake understanding the difference in the drugs.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/jun05/jun27news3
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/jun05/jun29news2
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/jul05/jul01news3
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/sep05/sep15news

2007 - Has some "irregular" blood values at Worlds that were eventually explained by diarrhoea.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/oct07/oct02news

2007 - Post-worlds, gets his load on and takes some speed, then smacks up his car.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/oct07/oct09news2
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/jan08/jan08news2

Call me crazy, but if I was Vaughters or Bob Stapleton I think I would be taking a pass on Schumi. All of the above stories seem to say that he is at best a little suspect in his lifestyle and professionalism. Taken with a more negative view, they leave the impression that he is quite possibly a dirty rider. Plus, I still have never really seen him perform in long TTs and then he shows up the Tour and wins both. Sometimes things do look too good to be true. Landis into Morzine, Ricco into Bagneres di Bigorre come to mind.
 

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Eric_H said:
Schumacher is definitely a guy who I think has a few question marks around him:

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Call me crazy, but if I was Vaughters or Bob Stapleton I think I would be taking a pass on Schumi. All of the above stories seem to say that he is at best a little suspect in his lifestyle and professionalism. Taken with a more negative view, they leave the impression that he is quite possibly a dirty rider. Plus, I still have never really seen him perform in long TTs and then he shows up the Tour and wins both. Sometimes things do look too good to be true. Landis into Morzine, Ricco into Bagneres di Bigorre come to mind.

Thanks for the research. I wasn't aware of all those red (or at least yellow) flags. Given the breadth of evidence you've presented, it seems like a team which is hanging their flag on the anti-doping, good-guy flagpole might be better off taking a pass, as you suggest. Slipstream, Columbia, Saxo and Astana have a bit more at stake than the rest of the peloton, having put themselves out there and saying "We're clean". I mean, it's one thing to get caught stealing cookies, and another to get caught stealing cookies after you've said "I don't steal cookies".
 

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spinmash said:
Giro needs to develop a full-face time trial helmet for Schumi if he goes to Garmin. That is one ugly dude with one monstrous cabeza.
People don't call him potato head for nothing.
 

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As long as the guy follows the rules of the team, then why not? If Garmin and Columbia really do have exhaustive biological passports, if he tries to job the team he will surely be caught. Right?
 
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