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Saw the saddest thing this morning...

Was stopped at a red light at a big 3-way intersection, look over to my right, and there's a white, medium-sized mutt trotting happily through the intersection sans human. And it didn't have the light.

So I'm sitting there in my car, going 'oh no' and hoping the doggie will make it.

He almost did.

He got across five out of six lanes, but on the very last one he got absolutely nailed by a white van that looked like it was going about 45. The guy honked just beforehand, but all that did was startle the dog and make it stop. :(

From what I saw of it, dog was definitely dead. Van guy to his credit immediately pulled over and came over to the dog. He must've felt pretty terrible.

Dog had a collar and I think tags too, so don't think it was a stray. Don't know if the dog got out or the owner just lets Fido roam, but either way... Idiot.

At least it was over quickly. Don't think the dog even knew what hit it.
 

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Dang......Sorry u had to see that.....Had a cool neighbor save another neighbors dog a few weeks ago. Long story but happy ending.....dog would have been killed on the road. Apparently the "cool neighbor" stopped all traffic coming both ways to get the dog. Owners were on Vacation and the sitter let her sneak off. I see the dog time and time.
 

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Dang......Sorry u had to see that.....
Yea, thanks. Worst part was probably the sound... a very matter-of-fact 'thud' followed by a loud but very short, cut-off yelp from the dog.

Had a cool neighbor save another neighbors dog a few weeks ago. Long story but happy ending.....dog would have been killed on the road. Apparently the "cool neighbor" stopped all traffic coming both ways to get the dog. Owners were on Vacation and the sitter let her sneak off. I see the dog time and time.
It's good to hear a happy story involving dogs and traffic after this morning. Your neighbor sounds pretty awesome.
 

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Honked but no brakes, granted the dog should never have been there but honking at a dog is like saying "on your left" on a MUP. It sucks to see that but people are wrapped up in themselves anymore and can't be responsible for themselves.
 

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Idiot cat owners too. Mine stay indoors as they should,as they have it made. Music, clean water and good food. Indoor pets live longer, healthier lives.
 

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I hit a cat a few weeks ago. I think it was being chased by something. It was under my car tire before I could even react to hit the brakes. I felt the thud. It was not a clean kill either. I turned around and got it out of the road and was trying to figure out what to do when the owner showed up, shrieking at me for killing her cat. I wanted to take it to the vet, who most likely would have put it down. She wanted to go get a gun and have me shoot it in the head. It was not a good scene. The cat slowly died. Took about 15 minutes, or at least it seemed like that. It is pretty awful killing someone's pet, regardless of how unintentional it was.
 

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It's not always idiot pet owners. Some animals can be pretty creative at escaping. I had a wolf/husky hybrid years ago that was an escape artist. She had a large area outside with 6' chain link fencing surrounding it. Once she reached full size, it turned out she had no trouble going over the top of that (I finally saw her do it, it didn't occur to me at first that she could have went over the top of a 6' fence.) so I ran an electric wire about 6" above the top of the fence all the way around. Worked for a short time and then she figured out she could dig under the fence. So I ran another wire around the bottom of the fence about 12" above the ground. The combo of fence and wires did the job of keeping her in but there were a couple times during the process when she escaped while I was at work and had time to roam. The fact that I lived in a very low traffic area and had neighbors who knew the wolf roaming around the area was actually my dog may have been the only reason nothing bad happened. Maybe I was a bit of an idiot for not knowing going in that a 6' fence wouldn't be enough... but I don't think there was any negligence on my part that contributed to her escapes.
 

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Yea, just because the dog got out doesn't make the owner an idiot. We had our dog run over in front of our house while we were on vacation, and her father was staying at the house watching them. It ruined our vacation, her father felt horrible, and whoever hit him probably felt like crap too. I'm just glad there was not an accident caused by our dog getting out, I'd feel worse about that.

Short story. The wife is a vet. We had a guy knock on our door at dinner time crying along with his son because his dog got hit by a car. She took off and took care of the dog, sent it home wrapped up/splinted and with pain medication. The guy canceled the check he wrote, turns out he didn't feel like paying a few hundred for just a dog, he thought that she should have done it "out of the goodness of her heart" because that's what animal lovers do.
 

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It's not always idiot pet owners. Some animals can be pretty creative at escaping.
No kidding. There's an animal boarding house near me that refuses to watch my friend's Australian Shepard anymore. That thing is a major escape artist. If the pen has no roof, that dog is leaving.

He's even been found on the first floor roof of my friend's old apartment before, apparently having jumped from a dresser and straight through a second story window screen. There was no way the dog would have been able to spot his landing - he just went for it.

I even got a text message one day that read "Argo chewed through his cable and jumped the fence. I found him on your porch. Next time you can keep him".
 

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Honked but no brakes, granted the dog should never have been there but honking at a dog is like saying "on your left" on a MUP. It sucks to see that but people are wrapped up in themselves anymore and can't be responsible for themselves.
Maybe the driver honked and braked at the same time? It is possible and likely.
 

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No kidding. There's an animal boarding house near me that refuses to watch my friend's Australian Shepard anymore. That thing is a major escape artist. If the pen has no roof, that dog is leaving.

He's even been found on the first floor roof of my friend's old apartment before, apparently having jumped from a dresser and straight through a second story window screen. There was no way the dog would have been able to spot his landing - he just went for it.

I even got a text message one day that read "Argo chewed through his cable and jumped the fence. I found him on your porch. Next time you can keep him".

A friend of mine has a Golden Lab, a huge, affectionate and enthusiastic slobbering beast of a dog, that was also an escape artist, gifted at climbing fences.

One day he got out, and my friend found him down the street...standing over the corpse of his eightysomething-year-old neighbor lady.

The one whose two children were both personal injury attorneys.

My friend came up on the scene, and no blood, but there's the dog, and there's the dead body on the ground, and there are the deceased's children (who, in an amazing coincidence, had dropped by for a visit).

They were surprisingly cool about the whole thing.
 

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I may catch some heat for this, but I'm gonna disagree with all the folks who say 'the owner isn't really an idiot if the dog is talented at escaping'.

Hey, you're the OWNER. That means

1) You KNOW the dog you're dealing with, quirks n' all.
2) You're responsible for his life.

You also know that if you live in a high-traffic area, which the area in which said doggie that got mowed down before my eyes definitely IS, a roaming doggie probably ain't gonna last too long.

You got a talented escape-artist of a dog? Great, that's kinda cool. Now be a talented prison-warden of a caring dog owner, and take whatever steps are necessary to prevent Fido from becoming street-pizza/roadkill.

Can't take those steps, and live in a high-traffic area? Sell or give away the dog.

Assuming the tags contain a phone number, I'm sure owner of said killed white mutt from yesterday wishes he'd done more. :(
 

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I may catch some heat for this, ...(
Well, the dog I'm talking about doesn't live in a high traffic area but it's still a bummer for my friend to come home and, on occasion, have his dog missing. Particularly when the measures taken to keep it home have included (in order of implementation);

- keeping it inside during the day (about $1000 worth of damage to furniture, clothing, curtains)

- 6 foot wooden fence
- electric fencing on top of that 6 foot fence
- move into a new house with a bigger yard and an invisible dog fence
- another wooden fence + invisible fence
- all that stuff plus a metal cable leash (I'm not sure how that was defeated)

and most recently, the dog chewed through 3 harnesses at the dog boarding place.

It's why I have indoor cats.
 

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My dad had an excape artist. Darn dog could easily jump a 6 foot fence. I was taking care of it when they were on vacation once. Every time I would get home the dog was outside the fence. Finally got fed up and went and bought an electric fence system... On the box: "Horse fence, not for dogs" Pefect. Set it up chest high for the dog about 3-4 feet from the fence. Dog hit it twice and never jumped another fence. After that we could lay the wire in a circle around the dog and it wouldn't leave the circle.

BTW, electric on the top doesn't do any good if the dog isn't grounded to complete the electrical connection.
 

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Or just lead an error free life...
This.

My dog (a Newfie) has escaped a few times despite our best efforts. In one case it was a gate that a workman did not fully close, in another it was darting out while the front door was open. If you have kids there is a potential of them making an error. I don't think the answer of "don't own a dog if there is ever any case he could get lose" is a reasonable answer.
 

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My son had a large dog that looked just like Scoobie Do. He was more than an escape artist. He chewed his way out of a metal dog crate. He jumped through a closed window. He chewed his way through a wood door. He could scale an 8' solid wood fence. When he busted through the window he cut himself so badly he had to be put down. It was the best thing for both the dog and my son.
 

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Well the guy driving the van certainly is not any fault for hitting the dog, that is ridiculous. Crossing 5 lanes of traffic, you couldn't expect anything else. It is either the dog or the dog owner's fault. The owner is the responsible party.
 

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Pretty smug reply, but that's expected :) Sometimes the only time you figure out a dog is an escape artist is when something like this happens. Some dogs only get one chance, some 20. Sometimes a dog can go years before something in it's environment causes it to do things an owner would never imagine it could do to escape. However we don't know the circumstances of why this dog was hit, so we can't immediately assume it was the owners fault. What if a neighbor kid let it out, the UPS guy opened the door to leave a package, etc. beyond the owner's control?

Now if you're talking a repeat offender that finds ways out of his yard, and the owner doesn't rein it in, then I agree with you.

I may catch some heat for this, but I'm gonna disagree with all the folks who say 'the owner isn't really an idiot if the dog is talented at escaping'.

Hey, you're the OWNER. That means

1) You KNOW the dog you're dealing with, quirks n' all.
2) You're responsible for his life.

You also know that if you live in a high-traffic area, which the area in which said doggie that got mowed down before my eyes definitely IS, a roaming doggie probably ain't gonna last too long.

You got a talented escape-artist of a dog? Great, that's kinda cool. Now be a talented prison-warden of a caring dog owner, and take whatever steps are necessary to prevent Fido from becoming street-pizza/roadkill.

Can't take those steps, and live in a high-traffic area? Sell or give away the dog.

Assuming the tags contain a phone number, I'm sure owner of said killed white mutt from yesterday wishes he'd done more. :(
 

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You got a talented escape-artist of a dog? Great, that's kinda cool. Now be a talented prison-warden of a caring dog owner, and take whatever steps are necessary to prevent Fido from becoming street-pizza/roadkill.
Agreed. But first you have to know they can escape. You can't fix a problem you don't know exists (because if you don't know it exists, it isn't a problem) and you don't know the problem of your pet escaping exists until said pet has escaped. I found my dog outside of the 6' fence with the gate closed and locked and no holes under the fence. I thought "How the %$&# did she managed that?", thinking there was no way she went over it. So I spent most of my weekend doing stuff in the yard outside the fence just to see if I could catch her escaping. Sure enough, I saw her run towards the fence, leap at it, kick into the fence with her back feet and slide right over the top. Trotted right over to me with a happy look on her face. I fixed the problem and she never went over the top again. I'm still trying to figure out exactly where I was an idiot in all that.
 
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