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I don't think I've seen any threads regarding these on RBR. I would think "skins" or "compression" wouldn't yield a very useful result on a search.

Anyway, had some racing the last couple of weekends and I was surprised to see a lot of riders wearing them. A friend of mine made the claim that after wearing them he didn't feel like he raced the previous day. Another claim was that they're great for recovery if you need to spend more than 2 hours behind the wheel.

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search harder Im sure its been covered. Generally it comes down to believing in magic or not and then buying or not buying them....like anything else

I dont believe in magic :takes corner:
 

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IMHO they work for me :thumbsup: I have the 2xu calf guards and use them after a long run or a tri. Typically my calf get's pretty sore the following day. After using the compression guard I still have some soreness but nothing compared to without. I usually put them on right after and keep them on until bed time.

PBK had them for 30 bucks which was the cheapest I found online.
 

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Sometimes magic beans grow.

Mostly they just give you gas.
 

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They do help my legs feel a bit more fresh after wearing them, but I'll wear them for the entire night and sleep in them. Generally if I feel the need to wear them it's after a super hard effort so I'm probably focusing on getting better rest/recovery anyway. I did wear them after a 218 mile ride last summer and was able to get out and ride another 40--50 miles the next day at a decent pace. They won't totally change your world, but my experience says they'll help you recover more quickly.
 

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I'm kinda on the fence. Right now I'm wearing my ZXU calf tights. I also have the Skins version, although they are wearing out and are more effective as leg warmers than compression tights. I've always had problems with calf soreness after several days of training or racing (the rest of the legs are always fine), so I went with these in desperation during a stage race. Snake oil or whatever, they seemed to help a little and I've stuck with them ever since.

That said, today I went out and bought a Stick for massaging sore muscles. I've been doing the same thing by hand, but several guys I respect said there is a difference. We'll see what happens...
 

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Actually there's been many posts about compression wear. Myself included. Like the others I bought the calf ones & I routinely wear them to sleep. To me they do make a difference. I chose the calf ones because I don't want to sweat in the summer heat when I sleep.
 

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I don't think I've seen any threads regarding these on RBR. I would think "skins" or "compression" wouldn't yield a very useful result on a search.

Anyway, had some racing the last couple of weekends and I was surprised to see a lot of riders wearing them. A friend of mine made the claim that after wearing them he didn't feel like he raced the previous day. Another claim was that they're great for recovery if you need to spend more than 2 hours behind the wheel.

Any thoughts or feedback?
placebo.

you get absolutely nothing from them while riding.

when it comes to cycling, compression socks are for recovery. that's it.
 

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I don't wear compression tights, but when I have a sore back (especially after a bike accident I had) or even torn muscles, I sleep on the hard wooden floor. I find that the extra compression actually helps me to feel pretty good the next day vs on a soft bed. Can't always do it alnight long, but 4 or 5hrs worth does me a lot of good. So based on this, perhaps compression could work
 

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I used to think more along the lines of "placebo," myself, but, there was recently an article in Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research about compression garments. Granted, it's resistance training, and not aerobic training, but I definitely think there's some relevance. Here's the abstract:

Kraemer, WJ, Flanagan, SD, Comstock, BA, Fragala, MS, Earp, JE, Dunn-Lewis, C, Ho, J-Y, Thomas, GA, Solomon-Hill, G, Penwell, ZR, Powell, MD, Wolf, MR, Volek, JS, Denegar, CR, and Maresh, CM. Effects of a whole body compression garment on markers of recovery after a heavy resistance workout in men and women. J Strength Cond Res 24(3): 804-814, 2010-The primary purpose of this investigation was to evaluate the influence of a whole body compression garment on recovery from a typical heavy resistance training workout in resistance-trained men and women. Eleven men (mean ± SD: age, 23.0 ± 2.9 years) and 9 women (mean ± SD: age 23.1 ± 2.2 years) who were highly resistance trained gave informed consent to participate in the study. A within-group (each subject acted as their own control), balanced, and randomized treatment design was used. Nutritional intakes, activity, and behavioral patterns (e.g., no pain medications, ice, or long showers over the 24 hours) were replicated 2 days before each test separated by 72 hours. An 8-exercise whole body heavy resistance exercise protocol using barbells (3 sets of 8-10 repetition maximum, 2.0-to 2.5-minute rest) was performed after which the subject showered and put on a specific whole body compression garment one designed for women and one for men (CG) or just wore his/her normal noncompression clothing (CON). Subjects were then tested after 24 hours. Dependent measures included sleep quality, vitality rating, resting fatigue rating, muscle soreness, muscle swelling via ultrasound, reaction movement times, bench throw power, countermovement vertical jump power, and serum concentrations of creatine kinase (CK) measured from a blood sample obtained via venipuncture of an arm vein. We observed significant (p ≤ 0.05) differences between CG and CON conditions in both men and women for vitality (CG > CON), resting fatigue ratings (CG < CON), muscle soreness (CG < CON), ultrasound measure swelling (CG < CON), bench press throw (CG > CON), and CK (CG < CON). A whole body compression garment worn during the 24-hour recovery period after an intense heavy resistance training workout enhances various psychological, physiological, and a few performance markers of recovery compared with noncompressive control garment conditions. The use of compression appears to help in the recovery process after an intense heavy resistance training workout in men and women.
 

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Andrea138 said:
I used to think more along the lines of "placebo," myself, but, there was recently an article in Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research about compression garments. Granted, it's resistance training, and not aerobic training, but I definitely think there's some relevance. Here's the abstract:

Kraemer, WJ, Flanagan, SD, Comstock, BA, Fragala, MS, Earp, JE, Dunn-Lewis, C, Ho, J-Y, Thomas, GA, Solomon-Hill, G, Penwell, ZR, Powell, MD, Wolf, MR, Volek, JS, Denegar, CR, and Maresh, CM. Effects of a whole body compression garment on markers of recovery after a heavy resistance workout in men and women. J Strength Cond Res 24(3): 804-814, 2010-The primary purpose of this investigation was to evaluate the influence of a whole body compression garment on recovery from a typical heavy resistance training workout in resistance-trained men and women. Eleven men (mean ± SD: age, 23.0 ± 2.9 years) and 9 women (mean ± SD: age 23.1 ± 2.2 years) who were highly resistance trained gave informed consent to participate in the study. A within-group (each subject acted as their own control), balanced, and randomized treatment design was used. Nutritional intakes, activity, and behavioral patterns (e.g., no pain medications, ice, or long showers over the 24 hours) were replicated 2 days before each test separated by 72 hours. An 8-exercise whole body heavy resistance exercise protocol using barbells (3 sets of 8-10 repetition maximum, 2.0-to 2.5-minute rest) was performed after which the subject showered and put on a specific whole body compression garment one designed for women and one for men (CG) or just wore his/her normal noncompression clothing (CON). Subjects were then tested after 24 hours. Dependent measures included sleep quality, vitality rating, resting fatigue rating, muscle soreness, muscle swelling via ultrasound, reaction movement times, bench throw power, countermovement vertical jump power, and serum concentrations of creatine kinase (CK) measured from a blood sample obtained via venipuncture of an arm vein. We observed significant (p ≤ 0.05) differences between CG and CON conditions in both men and women for vitality (CG > CON), resting fatigue ratings (CG < CON), muscle soreness (CG < CON), ultrasound measure swelling (CG < CON), bench press throw (CG > CON), and CK (CG < CON). A whole body compression garment worn during the 24-hour recovery period after an intense heavy resistance training workout enhances various psychological, physiological, and a few performance markers of recovery compared with noncompressive control garment conditions. The use of compression appears to help in the recovery process after an intense heavy resistance training workout in men and women.
Interesting, but I'd like to see some studies done on endurance athletes.
 

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If I don't wear compression shorts, I wind up with groin/pelvic injuries (recurring from a long time ago) while running. If I do, I don't have the issues. Probably more from support than the compression effects.

Compression stockings/leggings/shorts have been recommended by PT's/Doctors/etc for a long time, but everything I have heard was regarding supporting weakened areas or generally providing support/muscular heat retention. Nothing magic about that.

I wear Compression shorts on the bike, too, but mainly because I find them comfortable, and don't see any performance or soreness changes.
 

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I was having problems with DOMS in my calves lasting a 2 or 3 days after my rides this year (my usual protein drink is still working fine for my quads). I tried some Recofit compression calf sleeves - they worked great for my upper calf, but not for my lower calf. I'm probably going to try Zoot an see if they are better ($50 for a pair of cut off socks :lol:).

Anyway, I can see the value of compression apparel post workout. A lot more research needs to be done. Slowtwitch.com has a number of threads on compression tights, socks, calf sleeves, etc.
 

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There has been some suggestion that the compression clothing can help reduce the "micro oscillation", or contraction/lengthening cycles, of the musc fibers and thereby reduce, I guess, activity or micro trauma on that level. It does make sense when considering how muscles work and concentric/eccentric contractions.

Again, I am out of the loop on this and it might have fallen out of favor.

Botto is pretty up on this stuff and generally "gets it".

Andrea is also up on her ex phys.

I just thought I'd mention the above because I did not see it written yet as I scanned the posts.

However, I have really done a 180 in life recently and have steered much of my focus towards a minimalist approach on many things...especially that of training, exercise, medicine, nutrition, etc...
 

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mx_599 said:
There has been some suggestion that the compression clothing can help reduce the "micro oscillation", or contraction/lengthening cycles, of the musc fibers and thereby reduce, I guess, activity or micro trauma on that level. It does make sense when considering how muscles work and concentric/eccentric contractions.

From what I've read, that's still in the speculation/snake oil category.

Honestly, I do like shorts that have a bit of compression to them; I think it's just a personal preference "feels better" type of experience.
 

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If you don't mind my asking, what brand are you using?
Right now, Under Armor. They don't offer as much support as the ones twice the price but they do a good enough job as to prevent injury for me. I haven't found any that work as well in the same price range (can't usually say that about UA stuff). I'm always looking though. They're obviously tight, but not so tight in the waste band as to be uncomfortable over an 8 hour time period, though its rare I wear them that long.
 
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