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Hi,

So, I am struggling to decide which sport touring bike to purchase, and I am looking seriously at the Soma ES Road Sport or the Gunnar Sport. I would really prefer to purchase
an American made frameset, but the Gunnar may be over my budget.

So I am wondering is there really any big difference in built quality and comfort between
the Taiwanese made Soma as compared to the American made Gunnar/Waterford frames??

Will the Soma frameset last just as long as the Gunnar/Waterford frameset?

Does one ride smoother than the other??

Thanks
 

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No experience with a Soma but lot's with Waterfords. You can't go wrong with any bike made by Waterford. The quality is worth the money. Good luck
 

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cs1 said:
No experience with a Soma but lot's with Waterfords. You can't go wrong with any bike made by Waterford. The quality is worth the money. Good luck
+1 above. Spend a little extra if you need to. Support the working folks in Waterford.
 

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The Soma may be a pound or two heavier, but if that doesn't bother you (and the fact that you may cause the loss of American jobs), get the Soma.
 

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I'd also look at the Salsa Casseroll (though they switched that bike to cantis for 2011).

You shouldn't have durability issues with any of these, but the Gunnar will be lighter and livelier and more awesomer.
 

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+1 above. Spend a little extra if you need to. Support the working folks in Waterford.
I've bought my last 2 Waterfords used on ebay. It seems like a lugged frame Waterford can be cheaper than a tigged Gunnar. Considering the price difference new that could be a big savings. Do a search on Waterford and Gunnar on ebay. You might be surprised. Good luck.
 

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I have last years Casseroll single speed and love it - it's my only road bike now. I'd stay away from this years model. Cantis are a pain and if you don't need them don't bother. To me the dark red Soma ES is beautiful. And the weight of Somas (4 lb. for the frame so they say) is in line with what you'll get with a Gunnar. At least the Somas aren't made in China, one of the most repressive police states on Earth.
 

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Since I dont care for any or their stock colors, as I think they are a bit too bright, im going for a
custom color, im looking at "Sherwood Forrest" . I think that would look classy with all
silver components....silver seatpost, bar and stem and crank.
 

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blueutopia said:
Since I dont care for any or their stock colors, as I think they are a bit too bright, im going for a
custom color, im looking at "Sherwood Forrest" . I think that would look classy with all
silver components....silver seatpost, bar and stem and crank.
Awesome! Silver bike parts FTW. Post pics when you get it together!
 

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blueutopia said:
What does Hilter have to do with this??
He just means get the Gunnar and he's right. :)
 

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If money is not an issue, I would go for the Gunnar. The quality of construction would probably be a little nicer, and you could choose the color as well as fork.

Personally, I like the Salsa Casseroll, but its geometry is ideal for me. Cantis are an advantage from my point of view. With canti brakes, your frame can easily accommodate larger tires and fenders, plus they stop better. My mechanic set up the brakes on mine, and I've never had an issue -- they stop better than caliper brakes and are quiet.
 
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