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I cannot stomach the price of Shimano gruppos. Is Rival/Force just as light/good? TIA.
Do some quick searches, and you'll find plenty of info. The new 2009 rival is the most affordable and probably best bang for your buck. New full grouppo including cranks run anywhere from $750 to 900. Only a few grams heavier than force, and a few over Red. The difference is Rival crankset is alloy. Excellent LIGHT and precise groupset.Zachariah said:I cannot stomach the price of Shimano gruppos. Is Rival/Force just as light/good? TIA.
all left hand sram shifters have the zero loss mechanism like red, the right side force/rival shifters don't have zero loss. the brake lever and shift paddles now all have the same shape (longer, basically). they all have carbon brake levers. the shift paddles on rival are aluminum, on force they're magnesium, and they're carbon on the red. they all have reach adjust, and all have the option to run the shift cables on the front or back of the bars.Daren said:And its my understanding that the '09 Rival shifter internals are the same mechanism as the '08 Red but with a few different materials that are lighter. The Reds shift great; I love them.
Why did Sram go from small ring trim (on '08 Rival shifters) to big ring trim (on '09 Rival)? I've had both shifters and preferred the small ring trim.GirchyGirchy said:I kind of wish the front shifter had trim for the small ring and not the large, but the cage is wide so it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
I don't know. I think I read somewhere that it was for racers who may spend more time in the big ring. F that.ssing20 said:Why did Sram go from small ring trim (on '08 Rival shifters) to big ring trim (on '09 Rival)? I've had both shifters and preferred the small ring trim.