Just curious what percentage or you people here use standard double, over campact, and what are the positives and negatives of each.
Chainrings are even easier to swap out. You can go up to 52/38, I think, on a compact.timkstl said:a lot of people just can't get by with the harder standard gears. hence the compact and triples. but, with the proliferation of the wider range cogsets, it's a bit easier.
when in doubt, get a compact. it's very easy to swap out to a standard later with the outboard bearings and such if necessary. it's also very easy to change cassettes. it's just not a tough decision anymore because it's not too hard to hedge on it later.
Again, check the gear ratios - the same can be accomplished with a different cassette. A 34 w/ a 25 is nearly the same ratio as a 39 w/ a 27. Of the posts here, I do agree that a triple can help for those that rarely ride on hills, and they'll need it because of fitness level. I'll also agree with the difference between the 2 gears (compact vs regular) is bigger with a compact, but again, one shift of the rear can correct that too.Salsa_Lover said:This has been discussed a lot but I guess this is an opportunity for a short summary.
- If you run mostly flats or moderate climbs, no question about, get a standard.
- If you have lots of climbing involved and you are young and strong, keep the standard, you'll develop the strenght.
- If the climbs and really long or step and you are not so young/strong/fit you probably need a triple or compact.
I have used the 3 and I can tell you.
- The standard is good, has well balanced shifts, weight less and keep the other components small, disadvantages: need a strong rider to climb on it.
- The triple keeps the same 2 rings, but add the 30T for when you can't push the 39T. disadvantages, heavier, biger derailers, the chain is crossed most of the time, spindle width is larger.
- Compact, keep the clean chainline, weights less, keep smaller components, gives a range closer to the triple. disadvantage : loses high end, shift from 50T to 34T is too big, make an standard cassette fell "off" most of the time.
I guess if you have never riden a Standard, and just start with the compact, it would feel natural, but for me who ran an Standard since forever, I dislike the compact, all gears feel off-place.
Also when on the triple, on the 30T you can climb things you couldn't with the 39T, but for me it is frustrating, because you are doing so much effort and spinning a lot just to move slowly upwards.
It feels better on the 39T just to stand up and push the pedals.
... If I only was stronger...