When you sign your UCI card, you are agreeing to the terms of UCI rules ... so yes, they can tell UCI license holders what races they can or can't do. If you choose to ignore those rules they can fine you or take your license away.I kind of don't understand this one. Do you have to sign a contract when you get a UCI license? I don't understand how they can tell anyone where and what races they can race.
Basically when you're granted a license, you agree to play by UCI/USAC's rules, or they'll take your license, and all racing privileges away from you.I kind of don't understand this one. Do you have to sign a contract when you get a UCI license? I don't understand how they can tell anyone where and what races they can race.
and USAC does squat for cross and MTB while being quite happy to collect race fees.I kind of don't understand this one. Do you have to sign a contract when you get a UCI license? I don't understand how they can tell anyone where and what races they can race.
Ok I get it now. But I thought this was only for people with an international license. So masters and juniors should be ok unless they race worlds.When you sign your UCI card, you are agreeing to the terms of UCI rules ... so yes, they can tell UCI license holders what races they can or can't do. If you choose to ignore those rules they can fine you or take your license away.
Think of it like having a drivers license ... you don't sign a contract stating all the rules and regulations you must follow, but when you do sign the license you are agreeing to follow all of their rules, even if you don't know them all. If you chose to ignore the rules of the road they can fine you, imprison you or take your license away.
The issue really is that the UCI/USAC are only taking into account the top level of the sport ... the pro's racing on the pro circuit.
They forgot about all the juniors that occasionally race in big races and have a UCI license ... those guys can no longer participate in any local, regional or national level races unless it's sanctioned by the UCI. How can those guys afford to race? How can they develop into top level racers if they can't race?
What about the masters racers that race at the national level? They may need a UCI license if they want to race at a national level event or in Europe or other locations outside of the U.S. If they hold a UCI card, they can no longer participate in local races unless it's been sanctioned by the UCI ... so they either have to give up trying to compete at the upper levels or give up racing at the lower levels.
Basically the UCI/USAC only thought about those directly in front of their face ... not those that really matter. They neglected the sponsors of the sport, the grassroots people, the up and comers and the masters with money.
Short sighted as usual ... but then do we expect anything else from the UCI/USAC by now?
I know thats why here in CO there really aren't any USAC mountain bike races any more. They closed down the mountain stats cup for XC becasue no one would race it.and USAC does squat for cross and MTB while being quite happy to collect race fees.
They expect pros to only do their races (which don't pay a living wage) and forgo more lucrative races under the threat of we'll pull your UCI licensing
You might be surprised how many masters and juniors hold UCI licenses so they can race upper level races, or even go to Europe and race.Ok I get it now. But I thought this was only for people with an international license. So masters and juniors should be ok unless they race worlds.
I think US Pro cyclists should honor it and just ask the USAC for a paycheckI know thats why here in CO there really aren't any USAC mountain bike races any more. They closed down the mountain stats cup for XC becasue no one would race it.
not to throw this into PO... but... BWAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!...
I think we have laws against monopolies
Any top level junior who has the talent to race outside the US will require a UCI license. For example, If they will be racing the Tour de Abitibi in Quebec...One of the top level junior road races in Canada..Ok I get it now. But I thought this was only for people with an international license. So masters and juniors should be ok unless they race worlds.
I guess I don't see how the pros who dominate these events in the USA are really different than your example of Boonen swooping into a local event and scooping up all the glory and prize money? The purse at the Whiskey Off Road is $40K! That's a lot of prize money. It's pretty easy to see why the pros want to do those events and just as easy to understand why the local hero would resent sponsored pros who're paid to ride their bikes showing up!This thing has gotten ugly.
The rule sort of makes sense in Europe. It stops a Pro...like, say ,Boonen ..from showing up at a local Kermese and taking the money.
Local races in European countries are small compared to the size of US local races, while the US does not have many the big Pro races that take place all over Europe....and this goes for all cycling disciplines.
No, it only applies if you hold an international UCI license. No idea how many USAC licensed riders carry a UCI license.So am I understanding the rule correctly? Since I am a Cat 4 with a USAC license I can't race in the local non-sanctioned CX races?
That is called back pedaling ;^)USAC have said today they've been talking to the UCI and will announce a solution/proposition in a day or two that, according to them, should make everybody happy...
One of the reasons for the big purse is to attract the Pros. The Whiskey has a Pro class. The rule was designed so Pros didn't hit little races and grab money at amateur events.I guess I don't see how the pros who dominate these events in the USA are really different than your example of Boonen swooping into a local event and scooping up all the glory and prize money? The purse at the Whiskey Off Road is $40K! That's a lot of prize money. It's pretty easy to see why the pros want to do those events and just as easy to understand why the local hero would resent sponsored pros who're paid to ride their bikes showing up!
It seems like it would be a lot easier if the promoters and USAC/UCI could work this out without pitting one group of riders against another.