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The news seems to be giving rain forecasts for your area in feet, not inches. :eek:

Hurricane Harvey is apparently really somethin'.

Maybe it's angry 'cuz it's name is Harvey.
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Do. not. want.



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Yeah, hope everyone out there is ok. I went through Hurricane Andrew down here, so i know what they are going through.
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Way too many folks rode it out... Hopefully they stay safe as all the flooding records are broken.
 

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I'm in Pearland south of Houston. We are somewhere between 15- 20 inches of rain in the last 48 hours, maybe even more and still raining. Since the area is flat, rushing water is not as much of a problem as slow moving or standing water. There is about 2 feet of water in the streets but most homes in my neighborhood are dry. This area used to be rice fields. When subdivisions where built, the streets were dug out to provide water runoff areas. It is so flat here that according to Strava, On a dry day, I can do a 67 mile ride with less than 100 feet of climbing, most of that is a couple of overpasses. Looks like I will be on the trainer for a few days.
 

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I'm in Pearland south of Houston. We are somewhere between 15- 20 inches of rain in the last 48 hours, maybe even more and still raining. Since the area is flat, rushing water is not as much of a problem as slow moving or standing water.

There is about 2 feet of water in the streets but most homes in my neighborhood are dry. This area used to be rice fields. When subdivisions where built, the streets were dug out to provide water runoff areas. It is so flat here that according to Strava, On a dry day, I can do a 67 mile ride with less than 100 feet of climbing, most of that is a couple of overpasses. Looks like I will be on the trainer for a few days.
Geez. Got a kayak? :skep:

Stay safe.


PS- If you feel like, update us on how conditions develop throughout the week. I understand that the buildup of water will be ongoing through maybe Thursday, at least. :(





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Geez. Got a kayak? :skep:

Stay safe.


PS- If you feel like, update us on how conditions develop throughout the week. I understand that the buildup of water will be ongoing through maybe Thursday, at least. :(





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Hopefully he can.

If he isn't under water yet, he probably will be before this is over. And if he isn't, odds are there won't be power or water or food short of National Guard delivery for a long while.
 

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We are doing OK here in Spring.

We can hear a lot by Facebook - some people are getting water in their homes. It is very hit or miss across the Houston area.

And, at this point, most everyone in the Houston area is isolated - enough streets flood that you can only drive so far before hitting impassable road ways. The luckier ones can reach a grocery store that still has a few cans of beans on the shelf. The stores are selling out of the vegemite and everything.
 

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We are doing OK here in Spring.

We can hear a lot by Facebook - some people are getting water in their homes. It is very hit or miss across the Houston area.

And, at this point, most everyone in the Houston area is isolated - enough streets flood that you can only drive so far before hitting impassable road ways. The luckier ones can reach a grocery store that still has a few cans of beans on the shelf. The stores are selling out of the vegemite and everything.

Even the "lucky ones" may not stay that way for long...Given the wide area of rainfall with nowhere to go, I wonder how long before sewage starts backing up into homes.
 

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Hopefully he can.

If he isn't under water yet, he probably will be before this is over. And if he isn't, odds are there won't be power or water or food short of National Guard delivery for a long while.
Even the "lucky ones" may not stay that way for long...Given the wide area of rainfall with nowhere to go, I wonder how long before sewage starts backing up into homes.
It's rough out there, there are challenges, but... let's try to stay a lil' more positive, shall we?

I mean, what's next? Marc: "...And the living shall envy the dead". :skep:
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It's rough out there, there are challenges, but... let's try to stay a lil' more positive, shall we?

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That's what encourages people not to evacuate, not to take precautions and hope that climate change is just a scientific conspiracy. I really hope everyone is okay but knowing that humans are programmed to go down the road that offers least resistance I think things are going to get worse before they get better.
 

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That's what encourages people not to evacuate, not to take precautions and hope that climate change is just a scientific conspiracy. I really hope everyone is okay but knowing that humans are programmed to go down the road that offers least resistance I think things are going to get worse before they get better.
No. Just, no.

There is enormous difference between cautious optimism in the face of hardship and clueless, uninformed obtuseness in the face of disaster.

You're talking about dumb people who drive into high water, overtax first responders, and never prepared for a moment for any of this. I'm talking about everyone else.

Optimism comes in many flavors, not just one. My flavor is cautious, 'gotta be smart and/or work for good outcomes' -optimism.

Finally... you did know this hurricane strengthened remarkably quickly in just the last 24-48 hours before landfall, right? Caught a great many ppl by surprise.
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We were getting warnings since the beginning of the week that it was going to be a rainmaker - 20 inches over 3 days. While that may seem like a lot, it happens every few years. You stock up on food, stay off the roads, check on the neighbors and wait it out. Texas has grown by millions since the last similar storm and despite warnings, people who haven't been through one don't heed warnings. The ones who prepare to stay aren't the ones who overload the first responders. It is the poor who don't have resources to prepare, immigrants who are unaware, and the elderly unable to evacuate independently. A mass evac isn't reasonable for the Houston area if its just rain. Many of the areas zoned to accept a Houston evac already had people from the Corpus Christi/Matagorda Bay area where Harvey made landfall. Even if only a quarter of the population in the southern part of the Houston area left, the only reasonable route would be 2 interstates with a few hundred thousand evacuees.
The TV stations are running 24/7 and even coordinating some rescues until(if) the feds get here, local first responders put out the calls for volunteers and were overwhelmed with boats and good'ole boys with jacked up trucks that can go though 3-4 feet of water. A local furniture store owner and Houston icon opened up his furniture stores and said "we've got beds and food if you need a place to stay". The sports talk show guys were taking calls from people who need help and matching up people who can give it. The TX National Guard has already arrived with a convoy of trucks for high water rescues and a few thousand troops to assist. By the end of the week, the refineries will be back in operation and the rest of the country will be complaining that the price of gas has gone up.
 

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If you look at the radar, the rain has been coming from a couple main distinct bands. We have been getting hosed by this firehose of a band for the last day and a half - because storm is moving so slowly. I have not flooded. And now the storm has finally moved east enough that I am no longer getting the firehose. So, we may survive just fine.

If water runs off now, the remainder of the week may be tolerable.
 

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Jesus. They're talkin' about another 20 inches of rain for the Houston area, yet to come. :eek:

Somebody give SE Texas a break. This is redonk.
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We were getting warnings since the beginning of the week that it was going to be a rainmaker - 20 inches over 3 days. While that may seem like a lot, it happens every few years. You stock up on food, stay off the roads, check on the neighbors and wait it out. Texas has grown by millions since the last similar storm and despite warnings, people who haven't been through one don't heed warnings. The ones who prepare to stay aren't the ones who overload the first responders. It is the poor who don't have resources to prepare, immigrants who are unaware, and the elderly unable to evacuate independently. A mass evac isn't reasonable for the Houston area if its just rain. Many of the areas zoned to accept a Houston evac already had people from the Corpus Christi/Matagorda Bay area where Harvey made landfall. Even if only a quarter of the population in the southern part of the Houston area left, the only reasonable route would be 2 interstates with a few hundred thousand evacuees.

The TV stations are running 24/7 and even coordinating some rescues until(if) the feds get here, local first responders put out the calls for volunteers and were overwhelmed with boats and good'ole boys with jacked up trucks that can go though 3-4 feet of water. A local furniture store owner and Houston icon opened up his furniture stores and said "we've got beds and food if you need a place to stay". The sports talk show guys were taking calls from people who need help and matching up people who can give it. The TX National Guard has already arrived with a convoy of trucks for high water rescues and a few thousand troops to assist. By the end of the week, the refineries will be back in operation and the rest of the country will be complaining that the price of gas has gone up.
That's some great 411, thanks.

And from what I've seen secondhand on the telly, yeah, the community over there seems to really be pulling together to help try to deal with this thing. Props.
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and I thought that I was sick of rain here in WI, we have had one of the wettest years to date on record.

You texans, have had that much in the last day!

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Texas Rain Gauge -

Yesterday afternoon, I had the idea of putting out a rain gauge. I knew we were getting at least half an inch per hour, so I knew we would have dramatic results.

We got plastic cups and marked off inches, and set them out where they were not getting a stream from the roof or off a tree. One of my sons had the clever idea of adding a couple drops of food coloring to each cup.

We went for dinner at a local place, and checked the rain gauges 4 hours later.
 

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