But I just got a 20% off email flyer from a e-retailer/discounter and I can get a Colnago Mix in black with red flags and with Campy Veloce group for less than $1900 shipped. Only negative to this deal for me is that I already have a full AL bike and a AL/carbon stay bike. If I were to go for the Mix, that would be 2 similar frames in my stable. I do love the feel of good Aluminum but was thinking of steel, hence the post below re: MXL or Gios. Another issue though not a huge one is that the Mix is Veloce which some of you stated was quite heavy. The MXL would be set with Chorus and cost about $1300 more. I can afford the extra $$ but I am one that likes to get the best deal possible. So, Mix or MXL??? I have to decide today if I want the Mix at that great deal!! Thanks again bubbas!!!