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I've owned a Firenze a couple of months now and have no hesitation in recommending it, based on my time with it and with how it matched against other bikes I demo'd, as well as with what I had been riding.

I tested lots of bikes, made of about every material and material combination that's available. Naturally they all felt and rode differently and, importantly, with no identifiable characteristic feel from various frame materials. i.e., design trumps material.

The Firenze came out on top in my comparison and fortunately the shop that carried it did too--I might have gotten a different bike if I could only get the Lightspeed at a shop I didn't feel right about. There were some close seconds.

IMHO get out and ride as many bikes as you can and *ignore what the frame is made of*. (Vermicelli? Rides great!) There are so many variables--what's important is the synergy of the design, the build and the bits when the bike is assembled. It only takes me five minutes to eliminate a bike (two-thirds of what I test) but it takes at least a half-hour to decide whether it makes the list of finalists.

The Firenze carries the same Lightspeed warranty as one that costs ten grand, so don't worry about corner-cutting. I hesitate to call any two-thousand-dollar bicycle a bargain, but it compares very well against other bikes in the $1500-2500 range. It's responsive and comfortable. It's equally enjoyable on quick training rides and centurys. And so far, everything is holding up well.

I did nix the stock Lightspeed saddle, though.


JohnnyCat said:
Does the Firenze lack major quality in the material it uses or the welding process? I am not a big beliver in all these different tube shapes(neither is Seven or Serotta). It seems like Seven and Serotta though do swear by cold working. Is the only reason the bike is so cheap is because it doesn't have the GET or cold worked tubes. What exactly is cold worked, and does it make a huge difference? How is this bike different from Tuscany's of years past that just used straight round tubes? Would the difference just be the cold working aspect? Could someone explain what butted means? Serotta brags triple. Seven and many others claim double. Is single butted standard or is it possible to have no butting at all?

Has any body ridden the Firenze or Solano? How do they ride compared to equally priced steel or to high end Ti bikes?

Thanks John
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