Pros have engines, that i agree.Two thing to keep in mind about the pros:
1) They don't chose what they ride. They ride what their sponsors give them.
2) As you say, pros are pros. In other words, a "better" bike won't make the "engine" better. They have handling and coordination abilities us mere mortals don't come anywhere close to.
shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type makes me puke! You vacuous toffee-nosed malodorous pervert!!!
:thumbsup: I dont disagree w a thing you wrote... but:I have nothing against discs, and I think most of us riding CF bikes appreciate new technology. The problem is that discs pads do rub, rotors warp and aren't perfectly flat, the added weight and expense of discs, and are more than many home mechanics can handle vs easy-to-maintain rim brakes, etc.
It is a huge positive that they do stop better, as long as they are properly installed with good pads, and they do make the choice of full carbon wheels less of a compromise vs having to purchase special brake pads that don't tend to work all that well in the rain.
All of the above said, the newest Ultegra and Dura Ace level rim brakes are so good... it's not as much of a compromise as many would seem to claim.
I learned to take the squeal otta rim brakes.. actually to date I haven't been beat that route. :aureola: And that's another angle for me.. a challenge. Cuttin' to said chase.. I'll offer rim brakes give as much grief... IF... your UP on your maintenance to stop anything close to the disc-er.
Pretty much same here.It's funny, but my Ridley was set up with a complete SRAM Force 22 groupset, and the SRAM brakes use Swiss Stop's as OEM. The combo of the Force brakes + the Swiss Stop pads almost never squeal... and I've used the same damn pads since I bought the bike in 2014. And, I've ridden over 2K miles just this summer... so, I'm putting a lot of miles on the bike, as well.
How many miles is 4 months? Although unless you ride 1,000 miles per month, pad wear sounds premature unless you are consistently riding in a slurry of silty goop.this winter has been a lot better for riding on my new bike with disk brakes, to help with the perpetually wet roads this time of year. It's my first road bike to have quality Ultegra flat mount brakes. Much smoother control on steep wet roads. However the front went out on me last week. Pads are worn out after merely 4 months! The salmon rim brake pads on my summer bike are at least 4 years old and 16 000kms on it, and not worn out at all and the XT disk pads on my mountain bikes last a couple years too. My wife's bike with 105 flat mount brakes has seen excessive wear rates too. I understand the euro road pros have been swapping in XT rotors as they find the oem rotors not so good.
. Read the same thing!
And Saltchucker adds racers are using mountain bike rotors because they hold up!froome said:"The downside to disc brakes: the constant rubbing, the potential for mechanicals, the overheating, the discs becoming a bit warped when on descents longer than five or 10 minutes of constant braking.
"The distance between the disc and the rotors is still too narrow, so you're going to get that rubbing, you're going to get one piston that fires more than another, you're going to get these little issues. I don’t think the pistons quite retract the way they're meant to all the time. Quite often it’ll work on the stand and when the mechanic sorts it out, but once you get onto the road, it’s a different story."