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What you get by dealing with someone like PedalForce or Habanaero is post-sales service. For example, mhy first PF frame had a big glob of epoxy in the head tube that would prevent headset installation. PF sent me a replacement before they received the returned frame. Manufacturing issues happen, I understand. PF is still around and I am confident that if my frame had a manufacturing defect show up now, it would be warrantied.

This ebay seller states explicitly "no returns". So you'd be taking a chance that the frame is straight, no defects, and no defects that show up later. Personally I would rather spend a little more for a Habanero (if I wanted Ti, which I don't) or a PedalForce and get the service that comes along with that. Plus with a Hab you can get custom.
 

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I agree with others--get a Habanero, or even the Lynskey which is still a bargain for Ti. I used to ride with a guy who has the Habanero and he really likes it.
 

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I saw those on eBay too--I was hoping some RBR'r would buy one & try it out--like the bargain carbons...

Easy to say--spend twice as much--but cheap has its attractions.

In my case, I was thinking a bargain touring bike with S&S couplers, if the frame was decent...
 

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What you get by dealing with someone like PedalForce or Habanaero is post-sales service. For example, mhy first PF frame had a big glob of epoxy in the head tube that would prevent headset installation. PF sent me a replacement before they received the returned frame. Manufacturing issues happen, I understand. PF is still around and I am confident that if my frame had a manufacturing defect show up now, it would be warrantied.

This ebay seller states explicitly "no returns". So you'd be taking a chance that the frame is straight, no defects, and no defects that show up later. Personally I would rather spend a little more for a Habanero (if I wanted Ti, which I don't) or a PedalForce and get the service that comes along with that. Plus with a Hab you can get custom.
I talked to Steve @ Habanero who said I should talk to Mike (?) about geometry that might work for me. They sound reliable and their prices are good. $900 for a stock frame, $1300 for custom. I'm going way over budget but at least I'll get a bike that I really want and it'll last forever. I'll check out PF too.

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I talked to Steve @ Habanero who said I should talk to Mike (?) about geometry that might work for me. They sound reliable and their prices are good. $900 for a stock frame, $1300 for custom. I'm going way over budget but at least I'll get a bike that I really want and it'll last forever. I'll check out PF too.

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The name is MARK and he is the owner and the genius behind the Habanero line. Yes they're constructed overseas but to his (or if you insist - yours) measurements.

Habaneros are as good as anything you can get and Mark stands behind them.
 

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Where is it produced?

Who produced it?

Under what circumstances was it produced?

How can they afford to sell it at that price?
 

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Yeah, $650 with no "local" support is scary. I'm really liking that Habanero with the good price for custom fit. I think there's a guy from China on eBay who sells ti frames that also may be the one producing the Habanero's. That's worth a look-see too especially for his return policy.
 

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There's no support for it but the seller has a perfect feedback record and the deal is relatively good.
 

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Maybe it's the shine from the flash but the mitering and the welds at the bottom bracket look like ass to me.
 

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Maybe it's the shine from the flash but the mitering and the welds at the bottom bracket look like ass to me.
I think the welds on both frames are outstanding. I'm planning on upgrading from my steel steeds. Worth a look see, methinks.
 

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SDV is a company that tried to get on the market here in Quebec, Canada selling oversea-sourced titanium frames. Those frames are overstock liquidation sale I think. I am also pondering on getting one... but am unsure if the STA is proper for me =(

Their website is sdvti.com (hope that is not considered as spam...)

I have no affiliation whatsoever with them =)

-CR
 

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The welds look lousy compared to my Seven's welds, especially at the bottom bracket. That does not mean it can't ride like a good bike, but I would be worried about longevity. If you are buying Ti to last the rest of your life, that frame may not be a good choice. I found that some Ti bikes were made to feel stiffer and more uncomfortable than early aluminum bikes, when I was test riding them.
 
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