[AH1]

I know they are probably the same wheel, Neuvation having better spokes and probably hub. Only place I can find the Token wheel is one vendor on eBay, selling for $400.00 less then Neuvation. http://cgi.ebay.com/TOKEN-T2-Carbon-Fiber-Tubular-Road-Wheelset-Shimano_W0QQitemZ280181822129QQihZ018QQcategoryZ58099QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
Most-likely I would pull the rear hub and put on a PT, so the rear is not an issue. Anyone know other Token Vendors?. Token, refers to Token USA, then dead-ends. I also know from other posts that john provided good support. But $400 is a fair amount of cash. Is the Token rim in fact the same?

 

[AH1]

Thanks. I couldn't find the T38 anywhere except Australia. may go for the Williams "System 38" , Zipp rims, ceramic bearings, sanvik ss spokes. $1200. Seems like best bang for the buck.
http://www.williamscycling.com/