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Police search hotel room of Barloworld's Dueñas

<table align="left"> <caption class="small" align="bottom"> Moises Duenas Nevado tested positive for EPO
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</caption> <tbody><tr> <td> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> Spanish rider Moisés Dueñas has become the second rider to register a non-negative test for banned blood booster erythropoietin at the Tour de France. The results came from a sample taken from the Barloworld rider after the Grand Tour's first time trial, Stage 4 on July 8 in Cholet, according to head of the French Anti-doping Agency (AFLD) Pierre Bordry.


French authorities reportedly spent two hours searching the rider's room at Le Rex, the team hotel where Barloworld and Bouygues Telecom were staying in Tarbes, France. Only one room is believed to have been searched by French authorities during the morning, number 604 – that of the Spanish rider.
News of Dueñas' test result has spread quickly after confirmation this morning from the senior French anti-doping agency figure, including on LEquipe.fr - a newspaper owned by the same parent company as the Tour. The rider held 19th position on general classification heading into today's Stage 11, which he is unlikely to contest.
Dueñas has been a professional since 2004 with his biggest success to date victory at the Tour de l'Avenir in 2006. He won a stage and the overall of the Regio Tour last year.


The 27 year-old started out his career at Spanish team Relax-Fuenlabrada, before moving to Agritubel for the 2006 and 2007 seasons. Dueñas joined Barloworld at the beginning of this season, with the squad again one of a select number of Professional Continental squads to be invited to the prestigious French race. The Spaniard has no wins this year, but was hoping to aim high in the Tour.


Dueñas hails from Salamanca in central Spain. Barloworld's team-manager Claudio Corti wasn't available for comment as the news broke.
Dueñas is the second rider to register a non-negative sample at this year's Tour de France. On July 12 news broke that fellow Spaniard Manuel Beltrán from the Liquigas squad also tested non-negative to EPO, with the rider thrown out of the Tour immediately. Beltrán is awaiting the results of his B-sample test to learn his fate, with Liquigas already confirming the rider will be dumped if the second test upholds the results from his first sample.
French newspaper L'Equipe reported that Beltran was one of 10 riders found by the AFLD to have abnormal blood values in the days prior to the Tour. On July 3 and 4, the AFLD performed blood tests on riders "to allow for subsequent targeted doping tests during the Tour de France", the agency announced Friday.


The other nine riders who showed abnormal results were to be informed last weekend by AFLD, but the agency said that it would take no action against the riders other than to suggest that they submit the results to their team doctor "because of the possibility of a health risk", a statement read.
The AFLD said that it does not have the results of the same riders' testing which was performed in the first half of the year as part of the UCI's blood passport program, but "in the spirit of cooperation with the international federation" it would forward the results to the UCI for inclusion with those riders' profiles.


AFLD has been contracted to carry out anti-doping procedures at this year's Tour, which is governed by the French Cycling Federation following event organiser ASO's falling-out with the sport's international governing body Union Cycliste Internationale. All teams competing in the non-UCI event had to sign contracts with ASO prior to taking part, which were said to include strict measures to deal with breaches of the doping regulations.
The Tour was rocked in 2007 by a number of positive samples, with the most high-profile coming from former Astana rider Alexandre Vinokourov. The Kazakh's positive led to his Astana squad being thrown out of the Tour and disallowed from contesting this year's event – despite undergoing a complete restructure under new management.
 

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DIRT BOY said:
Police search hotel room of Barloworld's Dueñas

<table align="left"> <caption class="small" align="bottom"> Moises Duenas Nevado tested positive for EPO
Photo ©: Florian Schaaf
</caption> <tbody><tr> <td> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> Spanish rider Moisés Dueñas has become the second rider to register a non-negative test for banned blood booster erythropoietin at the Tour de France. The results came from a sample taken from the Barloworld rider after the Grand Tour's first time trial, Stage 4 on July 8 in Cholet, according to head of the French Anti-doping Agency (AFLD) Pierre Bordry.


French authorities reportedly spent two hours searching the rider's room at Le Rex, the team hotel where Barloworld and Bouygues Telecom were staying in Tarbes, France. Only one room is believed to have been searched by French authorities during the morning, number 604 – that of the Spanish rider.
News of Dueñas' test result has spread quickly after confirmation this morning from the senior French anti-doping agency figure, including on LEquipe.fr - a newspaper owned by the same parent company as the Tour. The rider held 19th position on general classification heading into today's Stage 11, which he is unlikely to contest.
Dueñas has been a professional since 2004 with his biggest success to date victory at the Tour de l'Avenir in 2006. He won a stage and the overall of the Regio Tour last year.


The 27 year-old started out his career at Spanish team Relax-Fuenlabrada, before moving to Agritubel for the 2006 and 2007 seasons. Dueñas joined Barloworld at the beginning of this season, with the squad again one of a select number of Professional Continental squads to be invited to the prestigious French race. The Spaniard has no wins this year, but was hoping to aim high in the Tour.


Dueñas hails from Salamanca in central Spain. Barloworld's team-manager Claudio Corti wasn't available for comment as the news broke.
Dueñas is the second rider to register a non-negative sample at this year's Tour de France. On July 12 news broke that fellow Spaniard Manuel Beltrán from the Liquigas squad also tested non-negative to EPO, with the rider thrown out of the Tour immediately. Beltrán is awaiting the results of his B-sample test to learn his fate, with Liquigas already confirming the rider will be dumped if the second test upholds the results from his first sample.
French newspaper L'Equipe reported that Beltran was one of 10 riders found by the AFLD to have abnormal blood values in the days prior to the Tour. On July 3 and 4, the AFLD performed blood tests on riders "to allow for subsequent targeted doping tests during the Tour de France", the agency announced Friday.


The other nine riders who showed abnormal results were to be informed last weekend by AFLD, but the agency said that it would take no action against the riders other than to suggest that they submit the results to their team doctor "because of the possibility of a health risk", a statement read.
The AFLD said that it does not have the results of the same riders' testing which was performed in the first half of the year as part of the UCI's blood passport program, but "in the spirit of cooperation with the international federation" it would forward the results to the UCI for inclusion with those riders' profiles.


AFLD has been contracted to carry out anti-doping procedures at this year's Tour, which is governed by the French Cycling Federation following event organiser ASO's falling-out with the sport's international governing body Union Cycliste Internationale. All teams competing in the non-UCI event had to sign contracts with ASO prior to taking part, which were said to include strict measures to deal with breaches of the doping regulations.
The Tour was rocked in 2007 by a number of positive samples, with the most high-profile coming from former Astana rider Alexandre Vinokourov. The Kazakh's positive led to his Astana squad being thrown out of the Tour and disallowed from contesting this year's event – despite undergoing a complete restructure under new management.
And you've just been caught for cheating as well.

-ilan
 

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at least the system's working and people are getting caught... i guess. i dont quite understand why the AFLD wouldnt puruse the other nine riders (in addition to beltran) with abnormal blood levels... health risk!? BS.
 

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And both Beltran and now Duenas were both caught for EPO, isn't that one of the most obvious doping substances and haven't they been testing for that substance for about 20 years now???

I'd have to agree though, at least the system is catching the dopers... I just hope it doesn't ruin the sport before it's all done...
 

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At this point I am wondering WHO exactly is "Taking back the Tour?"

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Take back the tour!
:rolleyes:
Seems the dopers are still fighting for their place.
 

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still, the fact that riders are still getting caught means that riders still think they can get away with it... meaning other riders ARE getting away with it.
 

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It's got a somewhat variable "washout period." Meaning, you can get your last injection about two weeks before the Tour starts, you should test negative, but you still have the benefit of an elevated hematocrit. That two week cushion is not always "right" for everyone, though.

It's kind of like why American's get their butts kicked in Olympic weightlifting- we have a testing program that makes sure the athletes do not use drugs. Other countries have testing programs to make sure they know exactly how long athletes on drugs have to stop taking them so that they will not test positive in competition.
 

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Sprocket - Matt said:
And both Heras and now Duenas were both caught for EPO, isn't that one of the most obvious doping substances and haven't they been testing for that substance for about 20 years now???
No, EPO became available in '89, test was either 2000 or '01. Hence the retro testing of the '98 and '99 frozen samples from the Tour to see prevalence of EPO use when it was undetectable.
 

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Cyclingnews.com reporting doping products also were found in Duenos' room. The team have asked police to investigate where they came from, stating they did not give them to him.
CYA!
 

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Andrea138 said:
It's got a somewhat variable "washout period." Meaning, you can get your last injection about two weeks before the Tour starts, you should test negative, but you still have the benefit of an elevated hematocrit. That two week cushion is not always "right" for everyone, though.
The detection window is only three to five days and that is with a regular dose. Smaller doses have a smaller detection window.

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It's kind of like why American's get their butts kicked in Olympic weightlifting- we have a testing program that makes sure the athletes do not use drugs. Other countries have testing programs to make sure they know exactly how long athletes on drugs have to stop taking them so that they will not test positive in competition.
LOL. Yeah, sure, american Olympic athletes would never dope.
 

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LOL. Yeah, sure, american Olympic athletes would never dope.
Yeah it's quite ironic. From what I've seen the anti-doping in sport movement began for the most part under US pressure because of the suspicion of widespread use of anabolic steroids and other drugs by the Soviet and Eastern bloc teams. Then, at least in Track & Field, we ended up being very good at beating the system so we could out dope them :)
 

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Under ACrookedSky said:
The detection window is only three to five days and that is with a regular dose. Smaller doses have a smaller detection window.



LOL. Yeah, sure, american Olympic athletes would never dope.

BINGO bro....

and IV micro doing has less than a 24 hour window as long as the dose is very very low(and daily).
But there is human identical epo(Dynepo) that is unbustable so why the hell are these guys on Alpha or Beta epo anyway.....seems to me that their docs are bailing on them and they don't know what they are doing on their own.
Also, there is no need for epo at all if you blood dope with your own frozen packed cells like Lance did for years.(They keep for 10 years by the way) But that takes $$$ and knowhow to do this.

RG :)
 

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Thanks for setting me straight... I was just graduating high school in 89...
So maybe that's why it seems like it's been around and detectable for so long...
Or maybe cause it seems to be the doping substance that gains the most media attention... Either way... It's still a "black mark" on yet another Tour. bummer.

BTW - Andrea & Dwayne, your posts are always high priority reading for me...
You guys have a great amount of knowledge and at least me, and probably most of the folks here on the RBR forums, really appreciate your sharing... Thanks.
 

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Can you imagine if they tested NFL or MLB with this much "vigor"? Cycling would look (relatively) clean.
Not only clean, but a true international sport with plenty of American support, cause the other two sports you just mentioned wouldn't exist any longer. :D :rolleyes:
 
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