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r_mutt said:
ok so no matter which way i slice it, i need to find a campy compatible model. does anyone know the BCD of Veloce UT CT cranks?
I think you need to find Veloce compatible rings. According to Stronglight the stamped rings have different dimensions to the machined ones:

Pour Campa carrés coniques (Type A)
Pour Campa Ultra Torque Centaur Carbone - Veloce - Mirage & Fulcrum R (Type B)
Pour Campa Ultra Torque Record - Chorus - Centaur Alu & Fulcrum RS ou RRS (Type C)

This thread would seem to confirm:

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