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to me now after being away for 14 years. I don't know if it's the quill or the seat that throws me off. I remember lusting after bikes in "Bicyling", "Bicycle Guide" and a few other's 30+ years ago.
 

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to me, vintage bikes are like vintage cars ('69 porsche 911), and modern bikes remind of modern nascar.
 

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to me, vintage bikes are like vintage cars ('69 porsche 911), and modern bikes remind of modern nascar.
Yeah, with nothing in them. Back in '94, a friend and I drove down to Anaheim in mid-60's VW Bug. 60 hp and no reclineable seats. You can keep the past.
 

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Yeah, with nothing in them.Back in '94, a friend and I drove down to Anaheim in mid-60's VW Bug. 60 hp and no reclineable seats. You can keep the past.

Thing is the past had some really brilliant engineering it would be nice to keep.

Things like 68mm BSA bottom brackets that always worked....as opposed to the creak prone farce of pressfit today. Things like wider tire clearances, that are finally making a comeback after a decade+ of ninnyism. Rack and fender mounts were practically extinct for a long while-and are now making a comeback. Triple cranksets, lovely things for tourists and climbers-that dumb dumbs have gotten rid of today.
 

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first car was a '60s camaro. last car was a porsche 968. i much preferred the one with less horsepower.



i do! and ride it hard, too!
Never drove old cars.
 

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What can I tell ya? I got my first "ten speed bike" in the late 1960's. I got my latest one a couple years ago. Anyway, there were some ugly bicycles back then. There were some terrible brazes and welds. Out of kilter, hard-on-the-eye angles. Rock hard rides.

Agreed, there are some ugly bicycles out right now, but every time I switch between my early '80's steel/five speed Campy Nuovo Record Somec and my current eleven speed Campy Chorus-ed, CF fibered curved tube swoop-fest it doesn't take more than three pedal strokes to appreciate how profoundly better the new bicycle is. Is the old bicycle prettier? Perhaps. But then again, my Bianchi Infinito isn't even the prettiest bicycle in the Bianchi line-up.
 

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Yeah, with nothing in them. Back in '94, a friend and I drove down to Anaheim in mid-60's VW Bug. 60 hp and no reclineable seats. You can keep the past.
Hey, my 1966 Beetle had seats that reclined.

Yeah, some less-collectible bikes did look clunky. Also, overly-ornate lugs always seemed a bit silly to me.
 

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Eye of the beholder I suppose

I like the look of the classics better. Watching the TdF today - sloping geometry, big head tube, beefy BB shell, threadless stem - just does not appeal to me.

The Colnago EPS below is a great bike, but the others appeal to me more visually. And the Eddy Merckx will go down hill (not uphill though ha ha) just as fast, if not faster than the EPS.
 

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I ride friction 6, and Ergo 10 roadies.
Personally, I prefer the classic styling of a level (or nearly level) top tube, even if on my Ti or CF bikes.

Steel is just fine for my cycling needs.
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I don't want my vintage cars again. My '62 MiniCooper, with 800cc engine, sliding (not roll-up) windows, and lack of a heater might have been classic but it was not particularly desirable (IMHO). Imported to USA from Bermuda.
 

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Oooh, nice! C Record on the De Rosa? I'm getting one together now; I want to index the shifting but don't have the adjuster for the 1st gen RD, so brainstorming that one right now.
 

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I ride friction 6, and Ergo 10 roadies.
Personally, I prefer the classic styling of a level (or nearly level) top tube, even if on my Ti or CF bikes.

Steel is just fine for my cycling needs.
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I don't want my vintage cars again. My '62 MiniCooper, with 800cc engine, sliding (not roll-up) windows, and lack of a heater might have been classic but it was not particularly desirable (IMHO). Imported to USA from Bermuda.
I'm originally from England and saw these all the time and didn't know they had no heat... but then, I was only 10.
 

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I look at the steelies featured in this thread and it makes me wonder how tall the owners are and how much they weigh. The way I see it, if you guys are large, the percentage weight difference between you and a bicycle would be significantly larger than the percentage it would be for me, a smaller than average guy. You'd notice a weight difference far less.

Putting it another way, I honestly feel a one pound/half kg difference. For me, a four pound/2kg difference, such as one between a decent 52cm classic steelie and a super-svelte CF bicycle (20lbs vs. 16 lbs), is a killer.
 

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My bikes are 56 and 57 cm and I weigh 165.

Typical weight on my steel bikes is 21.5 lbs, the Colnago Super is 22 and change. My heaviest is my Bianchi at 24 lbs. The Colnago EPS is a little under 16 lbs. No doubt the EPS is a faster bike, especially with all the climbing I have to do in my locale. I don't worry about the weight most of the time and if I was a flatlander I wouldn't worry about it at all. I think I enjoy the steel bikes as much, probably more than the EPS.
 

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htfu?



me too.
I ride to enjoy myself. Not to punish myself or to prove my machismo. Of course, sometimes I wind up in a world of pain anyway, but that's one of the hazards of the sport.
 
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