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Well, it looks like everyone else seems broken except Maggie. Is this a portent of things to come?

BTW, I love the show but haven't read the comics.
 

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And after that opener, I'm still seeing people b!tch!ng all over the internet. I don't think the producers can win. I think at least half of the audience is going to hate on whatever they do. Yet they keep watching...
 

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Loved it. Sounds like Abraham's legacy may live on through a child with Sasha. Carol is bound to recompose herself from her injuries and mental breakdown while at the Kingdom, and play a huge role in saving the rest of the gang from Negan. But, I don't think it will be this season. This setting is surely to carry over to the next. It's just too epic. I can't wait.
 

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Well, it looks like everyone else seems broken except Maggie. Is this a portent of things to come?

BTW, I love the show but haven't read the comics.
Darryl isn't broken.

Neither is Rick, he's just pretending to be. He will be the one who kills Negan
 

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Darryl isn't broken.

Neither is Rick, he's just pretending to be. He will be the one who kills Negan
Darryl may not be broken, but there is no way he can't connect the dots between what he did and what happened next, and he has to carry that around now.

Rick may very well be in pretty bad shape. Talking with my wife last night, if I had to make that choice he did with my kid, I may just as soon see everyone else shot. That was some pretty heinous stuff.
 

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Torture porn - how awesome. Not. AMC and TWD walked over a boundary line for me. Ridiculous - I basically knew what was going to happen, but didn't think they would show nearly as much as they did. Why not just give one wack and leave the rest to the audience's imagination. Gimple & Kirkman are a couple of sick puppies. Good bye TWD, thanks for most of the memories (but not last night's).
 

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Rick may very well be in pretty bad shape. Talking with my wife last night, if I had to make that choice he did with my kid, I may just as soon see everyone else shot. That was some pretty heinous stuff.
Yeah, but then he was going to kill Carl after he killed the rest of them and keep Rick alive to think about it for a while before killing him too. So letting the rest of them die wasn't going to solve anything with the Carl situation.
 

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Torture porn - how awesome. Not. AMC and TWD walked over a boundary line for me. Ridiculous - I basically knew what was going to happen, but didn't think they would show nearly as much as they did. Why not just give one wack and leave the rest to the audience's imagination. Gimple & Kirkman are a couple of sick puppies. Good bye TWD, thanks for most of the memories (but not last night's).
It was warranted. You can't come back from arguably the biggest cliff-hanger in history, and just show a bloody bat swinging through the air. A vast majority of the viewership would have been seriously let down.

But I will admit that Glens actions after the initial hit were completely too far-fetched. No one that has their skull visually dented in by a barb-wired bat is going to be able to stay on their knees, much less have the sense to talk.
 

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It was warranted. You can't come back from arguably the biggest cliff-hanger in history, and just show a bloody bat swinging through the air. A vast majority of the viewership would have been seriously let down.

But I will admit that Glens actions after the initial hit were completely too far-fetched. No one that has their skull visually dented in by a barb-wired bat is going to be able to stay on their knees, much less have the sense to talk.
For *you*. If you read what I said, I said for *me*.
 

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This morning, a co-worker was telling me how excited he was for the new season.

Co-worker: Do you watch the show?

Me: No, why?

Co-worker: OH they just killed off the two main characters, oh my god, and this is just the start of the new season!

Me: Well, the show's called The Walking Dead, those characters should be back soon enough! They can't kill them.

Co-worker: Ohhh no they REALLY killed 'em! No WAY they can come back from THAT!

Me: If you say so.......
 

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Torture porn - how awesome. Not. AMC and TWD walked over a boundary line for me. Ridiculous - I basically knew what was going to happen, but didn't think they would show nearly as much as they did. Why not just give one wack and leave the rest to the audience's imagination. Gimple & Kirkman are a couple of sick puppies. Good bye TWD, thanks for most of the memories (but not last night's).
I have to agree. I'm a recent fan but never enjoyed the gore part of it, stuck around for the characters and story development.
Last night was violence just for the sake of violence imo, not needed.
With that said, I will enjoy watching Maggie take out Negan when she's 9 months.
 

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But I will admit that Glens actions after the initial hit were completely too far-fetched. No one that has their skull visually dented in by a barb-wired bat is going to be able to stay on their knees, much less have the sense to talk.
That was pretty much a mirror image from the comic, Glenn with the dented head and eye popped out trying to talk to Maggie. It being far-fetched is irrelevant... we've already accepted zombies.

Me: Well, the show's called The Walking Dead, those characters should be back soon enough! They can't kill them.

Co-worker: Ohhh no they REALLY killed 'em! No WAY they can come back from THAT!

Me: If you say so.......
Sorry, 'tis true. Within the confines of the Walking Dead world, destroying the brain is perma-death. No coming back from that one.

Last night was violence just for the sake of violence imo, not needed.
It was needed. For every one person saying "too violent and gory", there would have been 1000 saying they wimped out without it. Glenn's death was supposed to have a nasty impact. An impact that couldn't be conveyed with vague references that something bad happened. Abraham's death was a show addition not from the comic. It was the only real disappointment in last night's episode for me. I think killing him first watered down the impact of Glenn's death... which is an extremely major event in the comic and an important turning point for the group going forward. I will give Abraham points for one last good quote though.
 

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Torture porn - how awesome. Not. AMC and TWD walked over a boundary line for me. Ridiculous - I basically knew what was going to happen, but didn't think they would show nearly as much as they did. Why not just give one wack and leave the rest to the audience's imagination. Gimple & Kirkman are a couple of sick puppies. Good bye TWD, thanks for most of the memories (but not last night's).
I think it was important to see what the others were seeing while being forced to just kneel there in silence. I didn't think it was gratuitous gore. I think it was extremely powerful stuff. I could feel Maggie's complete pain as she was watching Glenn flapping about after getting hit. Also, his final words, "I'll find you" was also quite powerful. It wouldn't have worked if he just said those words before getting hit. The whole of the bat scenes were hard for me to watch, and I am almost never bothered by gore and violence in film and the like. I think there are times for audience imagination and times when stuff should be shown. I think TWD has done a great job of this overall. Yes, it can be a fine line, but the bat scenes will stick with me for some time and not because of the gore. It was very emotional.
 

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It was too much for me to watch as well. Not so much for the gore or violence but for what Negan was doing to characters that I was completely invested in. I cared about these characters.

BTW, it's Daryl's fault Glenn meet Lucille.
 
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