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I've more or less decided to go the Chinese titanium route for my next bike, and have emailed XACD, Titan Products, and Waltly to compare prices, options, etc. Waltly will definitely do single bike orders. I just got a quote from them - same specs as Moots Vamoots for $600 plus $100 shipping, no upcharge for rack and fender mounts.

That puts them about $200 - $300 lower than Titan and XACD.

The only real difference I can see between Waltly and Moots is that Waltley would use straight tubes rather than butted, but at best butted ti tubes are going to result in a marginal weight saving, so not a big deal. Definitely not a > $1000 big deal.

However, I'd really like to hear from someone who's bought from Waltly.
 

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I am enjoying my XACD-made Carver road bike. Welds are competitive with the best I've seen on any bike. Carver was pretty damn reponsive providing customer services too. I thought about going direct as I even had a near perfect CAD drawing from a previous custom frame, but could not pull the trigger to go direct. If you want a blasted finish you get what comes from China. Anything more interesting is done here by Carver. Make sure you are clear in any case what anybody means by the term "brushed." My Carver got the Carver brushing which looks great, but I was expecting something slightly less prone to finger printing. I still love the look of Carver's brush finish and ...how XACD welded flat dropouts to chainstays is a work of art. Photos soon.

Only the downtube on my frame was butted. Davis said I might have saved another 200 grams by paying for butted seat and top tube. At that rate, butting costs about a $1 per gram. Maybe next time.
 

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For you guys who ordered a Waltly, how long did it take to get your frame once you placed the order?
Just ordered from Waltly. 35 days is the delivery quote, but I'm ok with longer because wont be around to receive it in 35 anyway (taking a trip) . Dealing with Jenny there. Requires constant attention and reminder about details, but she's real easy to deal with.
 

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Just ordered from Waltly. 35 days is the delivery quote, but I'm ok with longer because wont be around to receive it in 35 anyway (taking a trip) . Dealing with Jenny there. Requires constant attention and reminder about details, but she's real easy to deal with.
PLEASE update us when your frame comes in. Was it a custom road bike frame? How was the price compared to XACD or Titan Products? Good luck, and hope to hear positive news!
 

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PLEASE update us when your frame comes in. Was it a custom road bike frame? How was the price compared to XACD or Titan Products? Good luck, and hope to hear positive news!
Will do. Expect that to be later in August,
It's a cyclocross mix. Slightly longer chainstays, rack/fender braze-ons and couple other goodies.
I think it was cheaper than XACD but I never really got to the point of nailing down a price with XACD because they were way to aggressive and sales oriented (vs service) for me.
Waltly might be a bit more of a risk, in terms of quality (??) but it is one I was willing to take.
 

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I ordered a frame from Waltly back in July, received the photos last week and waiting to get final shipping confirmation - it's a 29er for 3" tyres with ISP. I've previously ordered a number of custom frames from XACD, but they keep racking up on the custom options to take a basic frame price from $600 to $1400 and no room for negotiation. Waltly offered to do the same for $800 including shipping and Paypal fee so was worth a punt. There's been one small glitch due to misreading of drawing - I picked up on the photos and they're rectifying for free. So far, pleased with the service, but proof will be when I get the frame.
 

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Hi All,
As promised here are some shots of the frame and fork as they arrived a couple days ago. I broke a toe so have been a little slow getting this out.
Waltly delivered on time and on spec as promised and my initial observations are that the quality is good, if you don't look too close. As you can see from the pictures, some of the welds are very good, some a little shoddy. I'm not a bike builder (please don't tell me you can tell!) but know I'm going to have fun trying on this frame. I'm sure I can tell you more about any shortcomings as the build progresses.
Would love to hear your reactions.
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Hi i have tow frames form Waltly. A road and a 29er. i have been riding the road bike for 8 months and i is grate. The 29er i only been riding two times so it is to early to say if it is good. The frames looks good and the welds looks fine and even.

The service for Waltly has been good. There was a mistake in the drawings where they have put the bottle mount where the frontmek clamp shut bee. So i send it back and got it fixt. They payed for the shipping and i only took 4 days from they got the frame til i got i back. So no complains there.

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Hi i have tow frames form Waltly. A road and a 29er. i have been riding the road bike for 8 months and i is grate. The 29er i only been riding two times so it is to early to say if it is good. The frames looks good and the welds looks fine and even.

The service for Waltly has been good. There was a mistake in the drawings where they have put the bottle mount where the frontmek clamp shut bee. So i send it back and got it fixt. They payed for the shipping and i only took 4 days from they got the frame til i got i back. So no complains there.

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I hope your Mandarin is better than your English.
 

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I am afraid it isn't. Mostly because i am Danish. And i hope that your behavior is better in the real world than on the net. And why do you think that your comment i relevant to the subject in the thread?
Whenever someone chimes into a thread about how great their Chinese bike is, in broken English, I get a little suspicious. Especially on post #4. You sound like a shill. And that's relevent to this thread. As far as my "behavior", it is what it is. Sorry you don't like it.
 
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