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What about severe injury vs. death

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I found this listing of cities inspire me to ask a lot of questions.

Does this include the popular bicycle rentals?
Any bike advocacy going on in these cities?
Any efforts on vehicle vs. bike rider education?
Many other Qs.

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I've been run off the road and to the ground twice (one was clearly intentional, the other time I'm not sure), I've been yelled at several times, and one time I had a driver swerve into the clearly marked bike lane so the passenger could take a swipe at my handlebars when I was going down hill at over 20mph.
Are u serious, I run with a camera front/rear and would take action on this.
Are u serious, I run with a camera front/rear and would take action on this.
I am 100% serious. I actually saw red I was so pissed off. I wish I had a camera at the time because I didn't catch the plate number. I was given a cheap camera for Christmas a few years ago. Sadly, it's battery doesn't usually last a full ride. Definitely considering a decent camera though.
and one time I had a driver swerve into the clearly marked bike lane so the passenger could take a swipe at my handlebars when I was going down hill at over 20mph.

Ride like no one sees you. Heck, people don't see police cars with flashing lights on the side of the road, so what chance do we have?
Yeah, I had a guy take a wide turn onto the street I was riding and brush me with his side view mirror. I didn't go down, but rode the bike harder than I ever did, before or since, trying to catch him. Every time I caught up the traffic cleared or the light changed before I got my hands on him, until I finally lost him.

It's probably good I didn't catch him because he would probably have ended up in the hospital and me in jail. I seriously wanted to beat him into the ground with my bike. A nice DeRosa.
Yeah, I had a guy take a wide turn onto the street I was riding and brush me with his side view mirror. I didn't go down, but rode the bike harder than I ever did, before or since, trying to catch him. Every time I caught up the traffic cleared or the light changed before I got my hands on him, until I finally lost him.

It's probably good I didn't catch him because he would probably have ended up in the hospital and me in jail. I seriously wanted to beat him into the ground with my bike. A nice DeRosa.
I wouldn't damage a nice DeRosa like that.
Everthing I have read above reinforces my personal credo, "it's ok for someone to deliberately do something egregious but not ok for anyone else to do anything they don't like".

An example might be.....their aggressive driving cuts me off in traffic but if someone else drives the speed limit for example, it's a problem".
What one considers egregious others may consider normal, and vice versa.
A driver who is more comfortable being cautious may consider a driver who is more comfortable changing lanes around them to be aggressive.
A driver who is aware of and can understand everyone else’s point of view and therefore anticipate their actions can be safe no matter what style of driving they’re comfortable with. This takes a lot of concentration so even the best drivers have lapses in concentration and judgement. Unfortunately those lapses can eventually align with circumstances that result in injury.
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What @Xydadx3 said. Situational awareness is key. I deliver, in a company vehicle, and see many, many driving situations.

I have seen the reactions of vehicles to bikers, most of which are quite poor as viewed by another road rider. Rarely are the riders flaunting standard rules or etiquette.
Everthing I have read above reinforces my personal credo, "it's ok for someone to deliberately do something egregious but not ok for anyone else to do anything they don't like".

An example might be.....their aggressive driving cuts me off in traffic but if someone else drives the speed limit for example, it's a problem".
There's a lot of "Do as I say, not as I do" happening out on them mean streets.

But, I don't see things being as bad as many others do. By picking one's routes and riding with one's head on a swivel, situational awareness, odds become better.

Yeah, most of my rides I get a close pass, or two, but aggressive acts, not nearly as often. Maybe a number of those close passes are intentional, but I still have to consider the number of automobiles that pass me on any given ride before condemning every vehicle out there. How many pass a cyclist on a given ride, only to have the one or two ass holes considered.

I've reviewed rear mounted camera footage and have been very pleased to see the numbers of vehicles that slow leaving "car lengths" between them and myself, waiting till it is safe to pass. Shux, just yesterday I was driving with my wife and saw a tractor trailer put on its turn signal to pull completely into the left lane to pass a cyclist, and then use the turn signal to pull back into the right lane, never once crowding the cyclist.

Yes, cyclists get hurt out there, but so do drivers and their passengers, hell one can get beat to death walking into a bar. The nature of life is that stuff happens, sometimes God-Awful stuff, but we can't let the bad stuff be our only focus.
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There’s an app or something that’ll count the # of vehicle encounters on a ride using your radar. If one were curious enough it may be interesting to see what percentage is a close pass. I don’t have that kind of curiosity.
I think most drivers are trying to be cautious around me when I ride. A few are clueless. But there is absolutely NO excuse for intentionally driving into the bike lane and taking a swipe at my handlebars. If I hadn't swerved at the last millisecond I'd have been in the hospital. It wasn't inattentive, it was criminal.
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