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not that it matters, but he hasn't been much use as a domestique, let alone anything more this year. He just seems to be there so the murricans have someone to wave a flag at

albeit h is having a bad year. He has had flashes of talent in past years. This year he belongs on the north am circuit
 

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Nowhere they would never hire him.

He is to prima-donna-ish to ever ride for someone else (his first tour with BMC proved that). Add to that the fact that he just dosn't deliver often enough.
 

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Nowhere they would never hire him.

He is to prima-donna-ish to ever ride for someone else (his first tour with BMC proved that). Add to that the fact that he just dosn't deliver often enough.
Off to the glue factory with both TJvG and Quintana!!
 
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He has the talent to be a Super Domestique, if you look at someone like Wout Poels he has lost 1:03 to Froome. Ride easy in some of the difficult non-mountain stages and TT's to save the legs and then help out in the mountains.

Whether or not he'd be willing to be on a team and not be the leader/co-leader remains to be seen.
 

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Overrated by Murricans like Nairo is overrated by the announcers.
Unlike Tejay, Quintana will very likely win the Tour someday, so I would say he's overrated this year. Tejay is good at shorter stage races and should stick with that. He could possibly win a Vuelta, but Giro and Tour are out of his capacity.
 

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I believe it was Robbie McEwen that was suggesting Tejay gets below his ideal weight to ride the TdF. Therefore, at the lower body weight he is unable to maintain his energy for a three week stage race. His conclusion was the same is burgrat's.
 

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Tejay just can't consistently handle the three week tours. Plenty of other stuff he can excel at. He is an elite talent- just not a potential GT winner. Would be excellent to target at things like Tour of California.
 

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Tejay just can't consistently handle the three week tours. Plenty of other stuff he can excel at. He is an elite talent- just not a potential GT winner. Would be excellent to target at things like Tour of California.
he could probably aim quite a bit higher than that.
 

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The guy has two top 5 finishes at the TdF and a white jersey, he would probably be a top lieutenant like Porte was and like Thomas, Henao, and Roache are now. He would also probably get to ride some lesser/U.S. races for himself each year like those guys do. Tejay isn't having a great TdF/year, but make no mistake the guy is good. Same could be said for Talansky. Neither will probably ever win a Tour/grand tour, but they are still quality GC men and capable of being team leaders on smaller teams. Team Sky's depth for GC races is ridiculous, so a number of quality GC men on other teams would only be lieutenants there.
 

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After today's stage 19, Porte is 5th overall @ +5:17 and has a slim chance at podium, while Van Garderen has totally collapsed at 58:46.

Yet, I don't recall seeing Van Garderen doing any work for Porte. Is TJV sulking & pouting? Seems a "good" way to not get offered a new contract.

Regardless, seems Porte will be BMC's designated GT leader going forward
 

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After today's stage 19, Porte is 5th overall @ +5:17 and has a slim chance at podium, while Van Garderen has totally collapsed at 58:46.

Yet, I don't recall seeing Van Garderen doing any work for Porte. Is TJV sulking & pouting? Seems a "good" way to not get offered a new contract.

Regardless, seems Porte will be BMC's designated GT leader going forward
On the face of it it seems very shameful for not even being able to expend himself on final climbs in support of Porte.

But we do not know what has happened to TJ this year. Could be an honest problem like an illness, or some misguided Team USA plan to get him rested for Rio (is he even on Team USA this year - I dunno)?
 

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Nowhere they would never hire him.

He is to prima-donna-ish to ever ride for someone else (his first tour with BMC proved that). Add to that the fact that he just dosn't deliver often enough.
Everyone at Sky has a job to do. They do exactly that job. Kiri, Stannard and Rowe drag the peloton along until they blow up, they don't try to win stages unless told to. G and Poels stick with Froome up the climbs, they don't take off to try and grab a stage for themselves.
There is no room for prima donnas who want to do their own thing: hence the exits of Wiggins and Cavendish.
Sky is all about the team.
TvG would not fit in there scheme at all.
 

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Everyone at Sky has a job to do. They do exactly that job. Kiri, Stannard and Rowe drag the peloton along until they blow up, they don't try to win stages unless told to. G and Poels stick with Froome up the climbs, they don't take off to try and grab a stage for themselves.
There is no room for prima donnas who want to do their own thing: hence the exits of Wiggins and Cavendish.
Sky is all about the team.
TvG would not fit in there scheme at all.
after this season, he might be lucky, chastened and happy to fit into a team like Sky as a worker bee. Lest he not get any contract or invite to the Tour. Though Sky do not seem short on enough talent to do very well without him.
 

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On the face of it it seems very shameful for not even being able to expend himself on final climbs in support of Porte.

But we do not know what has happened to TJ this year. Could be an honest problem like an illness, or some misguided Team USA plan to get him rested for Rio (is he even on Team USA this year - I dunno)?
BMC has made mistakes this whole Tour, especially leaving Porte isolated when he had his mechanical in the first few stages. He lost 1:45 because there were no teammates anywhere near him. He would be in 2nd place if he had that time back (hypothetically of course). Even today he had to wait a bit for team help. Compare that to Sky when Froome has an issue. They have him covered and up and running ASAP. I just don't understand how BMC thought having 2 leaders would work.
 
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