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Hi all, longtime lurker here looking for some advice
I can't make my mind up between these two bikes. I like the look of both of them.
1) Velorbis Scrap Deluxe
2) Retrovelo 'Paul'

I'm ordering one of these two bikes tomorrow. As of now I have hit a brick wall as to which one I like the most. I will be riding for leisure and am not into speed. Perhaps once in a blue moon I will take the bike to a hike and bike trail such as this https://www.localhikes.com/Hikes/Coyote_Ridge_2670.asp but will mostly be pottering around the neighborhood and local lakes.

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Scrap Deluxe








Retrovelo Paul







Specs: Scrap Deluxe
Men‘s 53 cm

Frame Luged Chromoly Tubing frame made in Germany (size 21" & 23")
Fork Full Chromoly, Square shoulder + cable guides
Paint No paint - Clear coated anti rust protected
B.B. shell Kinex alu Kinex
Crankset 46t Steel dogleg
Chain guard half closed for 46t
Rims Van Shothorst stainless 26 x 1.75 Van Shothorst
Spokes Stainless 2mm front and 2,34 rear
Front hub Dynamo hub - X-FDD 6v x 3w Sturmey Archer
Rear hub XRD3, XRD5, XRD8 - Freewheel, drum brake Sturmey Archer
Sprocket 21t Sturmey Archer
Rim tape Plastic Schwalbe
Tyres BLOND FAT BOY 26 x 1.75c with 3m and Reflective band - 60 mm Schwalbe
Mudguards Retro model 451 with nose
Tubes 26 x 1.75c with AUTO walve Schwalbe
Chain Z410 RB KMC Rustless
Seat post Kalloy SP-907 Chromoly. 26.8 Chrom plated
Saddle Brooks B67 Antique Brown Leather BROOKS
Seat post clamp Stainless bolt 8x60mm with stainless nut
Headset Neco H131 36mm Chrome Plated 22.2 x 30 x 27 8 pcs
Stem KY40/promax HS503s stainless high polished 250mm silver
Handlebar Zoom NR 14 steel Chrome Plated
Shifter Sturmey Archer 3 & 5 speed old type shifter, 8 speed grip shifter Sturmey Archer
Grips Brooks leather antique brown BROOKS
Mud flap front wheel Brooks leather antique brown BROOKS
Front brake Drum brake (S.A. X-FDD 6v x 3w) Sturmey Archer
Brake lever 4 fingers roundlever Promax
Rear Carrier Classic 45 cm/ 18" with bracket holder for lap top BOMI
Reflectors NA included in tyres and head lamp
Pedals Union classic model anti slip Union
Bolts and nuts Stainless
Kickstand âthran steel galvanised âthran
Bell ring ring…chrome plated
Lock Not included
Coat Guard Not included
Rear light 4D lite Plus 330 CALK with Chrome casing Bush & Müller
Front light B&M 1706CSNDi Lumotec Retro senso plus Bush & Müller

Specs: Retrovelo 'Paul'

Frame, Fork- CrMo-Steel (main tube set), hand-soldered
Frame Height- Women‘s 52 cm, Men‘s 56 cm
Handlebar- Bearing 1“ RITCHEY Logic black
Saddle- BROOKS B 67, leather core saddle, honey or black
Crank Set -aluminium SUGINO chainring 130 mm, 42 teeth with chainring guard
Chain-KMC 1/2x3/32 silver/brown
Chainguard -powder-coated in frame colour
Pedals- aluminium with non-slip rubber surface
Brakes-Shimano Roller Brake, BR-IM 41
Rims-SCHOTTHORST-ST 32, stainless steel, powder-coated in cream or black
Tyres- Schwalbe „FAT FRANK“ 26 x 2,35“, creme or black
Inner Tubes-Schwalber Schrader-valve (car valve)
Front End-steel 80/100 mm, 25°, powder-coated in frame colour
Handlebar-steel 57/67 cm width, chrome-plated
Grips -soft filament profile, skin-friendly TPE
Bell -brass-safety bell, chrome-plated
Brake Lever-aluminium (silver-coloured coating)
Dynamo-BASTA-Turbo sidewall or Shimano hub dynamo
Front Light-Halogen AXA-T5 brass or B&M LUMOTEC-N Retro, chrome-plated
Rear Light-Busch & Müller SECULITE plus, LED with parking light, chrome-plated
Mudguards-Steel – 65 mm galvanised, powder-coated in frame colour
Fender Straps-Stainless steel
Rack-Tube rack, powder-coated in frame colour – from 2007

I don't know much about bikes so any insight from you guys would be appreciated in helping me decide which one to get.
 

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edit - the Paul. Hands down. The authentic old-school industrial fork crown, the minimal chain guard, the color matched quill stem and rack? Yep. That's the one. It's like a 1930's BMW R series motorcycle.

You know that's gonna get really dirty, really fast though?
 

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thinkcooper said:
The Scrap. Hands down. The authentic old-school industrial fork crown, the minimal chain guard, the color matched quill stem and rack? Yep. That's the one. It's like a 1930's BMW R series motorcycle.

You know that's gonna get really dirty, really fast though?
I think that's the Retrovelo Paul not the Scrap but I agree w/ you for the exact same reasons except the BMW reference because I haven't a clue about BMW's
 

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augustfall said:
Could either of these bikes do a trail like this http://www.localhikes.com/Hikes/Coyote_Ridge_2670.asp
or would I need more gears?
You wouldn't want that bike if you are thinking about doing some light trail riding. You are going to want more gears, and also a slightly different riding position. IMO, riding so upright would be nice on sidewalks, but a pain in the a$$ on rolling hills through Colorado trails.

Ride on,
 

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Coyote Ridge

Hey, I can see Coyote Ridge and the trail from my back window. I've done that trail many times, on foot and by bike. The first section, from the parking lot back to the cabin/interpretive center is an easy, smooth gravel road. There's a bit of a climb over the first hogsback, but it wouldn't be a problem on that type of bike. Only about a mile each way though. Beyond that, the trail turns to single track, fairly rocky and pretty steep. Not the toughest single track around, but definitely more suited to a mountain bike.

For easier trail riding, check out the trails in the Pineridge area around Dixon lake, across from the football stadium.

Cool bikes by the way. Perfect for cruising the paved trails around town.
 

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Email my Brother sent me today

"They're both heavy sluggish dogs. You'll sit comfortably, but that plus point will soon wear off. These 'cruiser' style bikes are a second or third bike novelty, unless maybe you wanna ride along a sea-front while chatting. If you want a comfy commuter type bike, get Kona smoke or Kona DEW or GT ZUM or something similar. Trust me I know what I'm talking about, you'll regret it later"
 

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augustfall said:
Email my Brother sent me today

"They're both heavy sluggish dogs. You'll sit comfortably, but that plus point will soon wear off. These 'cruiser' style bikes are a second or third bike novelty, unless maybe you wanna ride along a sea-front while chatting. If you want a comfy commuter type bike, get Kona smoke or Kona DEW or GT ZUM or something similar. Trust me I know what I'm talking about, you'll regret it later"

He is probably right, but they are stylish dogs.
 
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