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All right- I have been lurking these forums for quite a while since I bought my first road bike and sought and got good advice here on what size seatpost for the ebay bike I was considering...

Now I want another bike and I want to spend $1300 delivered -

I can wrench the bike myself - it aint rocket science...

I KNOW how to fit myself -

I want the MOST bang for the buck on a NEW bike - seems like online is the place but it is a bit dizzying to sort out all the specs

so- I rely on you guys- what bikes are available online - who has the best deal and WHY?

thanks in advance for helpful input

(this is a repost as I screwed up the first one - I am new so forgive me - thanks)

OK- here is a list of online bike sellers I have come up with so far let me know if I have forgotten anyone - I want a new bike and a warranty so ebay is out

colorado cyclist
ibex
bikehard (ooh the ****** joke possibilities here...)
bikesdirect
fly
randall scott
leopard (too much money and funky warranty so they are out really)
performance
supergo
gvh bikes
 

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Are you looking for a racing bike, a touring bike, a tri bike, a MTB, a century bike?

Are you concerned with looks, having a impressive name on it, or having the only one of it kind in your area?

Are you 150 lbs or 300 lbs?

Is the frame, wheels or components most important?


Your question is way to broad but I think I know where you are heading so I'll save everybody some time.


Frame 2.7 Pound A6 Quaternary Phase Butted Multi-Shape Aluminum
+ Dual bottle mounts + replaceable derailleur hanger, Integrated Headtube

Fork Aero FC-440 SL High Modulus Carbon Fiber with Carbon Steerer

Derailleurs NEW Shimano Ultegra 6600 10 Speed (20 Spd total) front and rear

Shifters NEW Shimano Ultegra 6600 10 Speed STI (20 Speed total)

Brakes Cane Creek SCR-5 ($150 MSRP) with Cartridge pads Gloss Black finish

Hubs Top of the Line - American Classic Sealed Precision Bearing Black Anodized

Rims FREE- SPECIAL FACTORY UPGRADE TO American Classic 420 with CNC sides, Aero Deep Section Rims and Radial Stainless Butted Spokes MSRP $899 (NO published Rider weight limit)

Crank FSA SLK Carbon Fiber ISIS spline 10 Speed 50/36 T

Bottom Bracket TruVativ Ultralight Sealed Cartridge ISIS spline 68x108 Hollow Spindle

Cassette/chain NEW 2006 Shimano Ultegra 6600 10 Speed 11-23 T / Shimano NEW 2006 Ultegra CN-HG6600 10speed chain

Saddle Moto SLR Ti Rail 180g

Seatpost Ritchey WCS Road 250x27.2

Stem Ritchey WCS OS (90/100/110 Proportional Sized - No Custom Size Options)

Headset Cane Creek IS2 Sealed Cartridge Bearing Integrated

Handlebars Ritchey WCS OS Butted Aluminum Bar (40/42/44 Proportional Sized - No Custom Size Options)

Pedals email us for special preferred customer pedal pricing at [email protected]

Tires Vittoria Diamante Prolite 700x23c

Color Ferrari Gloss Black, Plutonium Silver

Sizes 49cm, 52 cm, 54 cm, 56 cm, 58 cm, 61cm
(Center of BB to Top of Seatpost Clamp/collar -
just like Trek and Fuji 2006 Roubaix SL www.fujibikes.com)

With $5.00 to spare!

 

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ibex?

this is funny -
http://www.ibexcycles.com/movies/nakusp_2004/

OK - found the real site

http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/APR-PRO-Details.html

that is the only bike I found anywhere close to my price range
it is $1499 + $35 shipping = $1534 ouch that is $234 more than I wanted to spend
hmm- they have zero road bikes under $1499

well - they are out - unless I missed something there is nothing to compare there

oh yeah - fugly bike too - ouch what were they thinking?
anyway on to the next store
I like online shopping - it saves on gas..
:)
 

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did you read my post?

Please read my post - plus - you already submitted that one
please tell me why it is good and how it compares to what other online stores offer?

thanks
 

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Randall Scott

Now we are getting somewhere here is one for the comparison:

$1189 delivered - plus 10 day test ride / risk free

http://www.rscycle.com/s.nl/sc.19/category.474/it.A/id.7438/.f

Frame: Tommaso Semi Compact Double-Butted Aluminum w/ Carbon Seatstays
Fork: Tommaso Aero Carbon Fork
Rear Shock:
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra, 6600 31.8 Clamp
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra, 6600-SS
Shifters: Shimano Ultegra, 6600
Brakes Levers: Shimano Ultegra, 6600
Brakes: Shimnao Ultegra ,6600
Chain: KMC DX10 (10 Speed)
Crankset: FSA Gossamer- Low Profile 50-34 / 12-25
Cassette: 12/25, 10 Speed
Pedals:

Bottom Bracket: FSA Mega Exo w/ Out Board Mounted Bearings
Headset: FSA Orbit IS-2 W/15mm Top Cap 1-1/8" Threadless
Saddle: Selle Italia XO
Seat Post: Tommaso Carbon Fiber
Handlebar: FSA RD 300 31.8 Clamp Size
Grips: Velo Charcoal
Stem: FSA OS 185
Tires: Vittoria Zaffiro 700X25
Wheelset: Ritchey OCR Comp
Weight: 18.0 (Approximate) 52cm without pedals/relectors
Color: Black W/Italian Red
 

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bikehard

here is what bikehard has:
http://www.bikehard.com/bicycles4.shtml

$1499.95 + 38.99 or 59.99 ship costs
this bumps them out but tell me if it is worth the added price


Aluminum Butted Frame
Carbon Fiber Seat and Chain Stays
Reynolds Ouzo Comp Carbon Fork
Shimano Ultegra 6600 10 speed group
FSA RD 80 Road Wheelset
FSA Bar, Stem, Handlebar, Seatpost, and Seat
Extremely light at 17.4 pounds
Components
Wheels FSA RD 80 Road Wheelset
Tires Hutchinson Fusion Team Series Lampre Caffita 700x23
Tubes Vittoria Ultralite 700x23 Presta Tube
Brakes Shimano Ultegra 6600 10/sp
Shifters/Levers Shimano Ultegra 6600 10/sp
Front Derailleur Shimano Ultegra 6600 10/sp
Rear Derailleur Shimano Ultegra 6600 10/sp
Chain Shimano Ultegra 6600 10/sp
Crankset Shimano Ultegra 6600 10/sp
Bottom Bracket Shimano Ultegra 6600 10/sp
Seatpost FSA SL-250 Aluminum Seatpost
Seat FSA SLK Carbon Saddle w/Cromolly Rails
Handlebar FSA RD-250 Road Handlebar
Stem FSA OS-140 Stem w/Carbon Plate
Headset Cane Creek ZS2 Zerostack 1 1/8" Catridge Bearing
Fork Reynolds Ouzo Comp Carbon
Frame 6061 T6 Alloy Butted Tubes, Carbon Seat & Chain stays
Tape Profile Designs Cork
Cassette 12-25 cog sizing
Colors Matte Silver, Dark Navy Blue
Weight 17.4 lbs
 

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Bikesdirect

http://bikesdirect.com/products/road_bikes.htm

they seem to have too many bikes in my $1300 price range so this is going to be even harder to decide
OUCH

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/centpro05pre.htm

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/draco_al06.htm

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/serp_ltd20.htm

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/serp_ltd30.htm

http://bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/lechamp06_sl_pre.htm

http://bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/mercier_serpens2006.htm

I think I'll skip posting the details on these until I check out the others since I want to have most of the online retailers listed before I run out of time today...
 

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GVH Bikes

http://www.gvhbikes.com/special.html

$1295 for double and $1345 for triple
this is a 9 spd - 2004 model?

Standard shipping is by FedEx Ground.
Pacific Mountain Central Eastern
Bicycle $20 $30 $40 $50



they might be in the running if I can justify spending the extra but I think I want 10 spd stuff
 

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Performance

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=21955&subcategory_ID=3040

$1199.99 sold out though
Frame: XRL Doubled Butted aluminum w/ Carbon Seatstay
Fork: BEV Carbon/Aluminum 28.6m Integrated Steerer
Headset: Tien Hsin 1/18" integrated; 36/45 degree
Crankset: TruVativ Elita SL triple for rear 10 speed; 50x39Tx30T
Bottom Bracket: Giga X Pipe TEAM; included w/ Cranksets
Shifters: Rear: Shimano Ultegra 10 speed; Front: Shimano Ultegra Triple; 3 speed
Levers: Shimano STI
Handlebar: Alloy 7075 D.B.
Stem: Alloy 31.8mm
Ft. Der.: Shimano 105 triple
Rr. Der.: Shimano Ultegra 10 speed triple
Cassette: Shimano 105 10 speed 12-27
Brakes: Tektro RX-20G Forged Alloy Dual Pivot; w/ P420 Cartridge Pads
Wheelset: Korso 700C
Tires: Kenda K-191 700x23C
Pedals: Nil
Seatpost: Gigantex ST-013 Carbon; 27.2x300mm
Saddle: Velo VL-1101
Chain: Shimano 10 speed compatible; 108 links
Grips/Tape : Good Horse synthetic cork tape w/ bar plug

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=21250&subcategory_ID=3040
hmm - full carbon bike for $1279
they don't have my size though - only got 50 or 62cm
Tires: Hutchinson Top Speed
Pedals: NONE
Seatpost: SCG CF1 Carbon/Alloy
Saddle: Selle Italia XO
Chain: 10 Speed
Grips/Tape : Synthetic Cork
Frame: Full Carbon Monocoque
Fork: Carbon Blade
Headset: FSA Orbit IS 2
Crankset: Shimano Ultegra 6600 39/53 double
Bottom Bracket: Shimano Ultegra
Shifters: Shimano Ultegra 6600 10-speed
Levers: Shimano Ultegra 10
Handlebar: SCG R2 6061 Alloy Ergo Bend
Stem: SCG R2 6061 Alloy 31.8mm OS
Ft. Der.: Shimano Ultegra 6600 double
Rr. Der.: Shimano Ultegra 6600 double
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 6600; 12-25; 10-speed
Brakes: Shimano Ultegra 6600
Wheelset: SCG Korso

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=21251&subcategory_ID=3040

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=22006&subcategory_ID=3040

seems like they are low on stock though and does anyone know what they charge to ship a bike ? I'll call them later but if you know tell me-
 

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brerabbit2 said:
Please read my post - plus - you already submitted that one
please tell me why it is good and how it compares to what other online stores offer?

thanks
I'm still going with Lifelover's choice. If it's good enough for him, it must be good enough for me.
 

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Leopard

Leopard does not have any bikes under $2000
I aint bill gates soo I will have to pass on them - did I miss a lower priced model?
 

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Leopard does not have any bikes under $2000
I aint bill gates soo I will have to pass on them - did I miss a lower priced model?
Apart from Colorado Cyclist, how are you going to be able to know if any of these actually fit you, or feel good under you? Most of the people on this board can't try out most of the bikes you are asking about, because they are only available mail order. Also, Lifelover did ask you (repeatedly) what you want to use the bike for, and I'm not sure you understood the question. Do you want a bike for just riding around, for centuries, for road races, for time trials, for criteriums? The reason he asked is that there are "road bikes" for each of these that are different enough that it actually matters. You would not want to get a time trial bike for criteriums, or vice versa.

CC is a well regarded shop, they can steer you to the right type of bike for you. If you go up to Boulder you could check out Excel Sports as well, but they might not have anything in your price range. I don't know if Turin is still in Denver, but they were a good shop when I lived there years ago. Actually, the front range is loaded with good shops.
 

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bwana said:
Apart from Colorado Cyclist, how are you going to be able to know if any of these actually fit you, or feel good under you? Most of the people on this board can't try out most of the bikes you are asking about, because they are only available mail order. Also, Lifelover did ask you (repeatedly) what you want to use the bike for, and I'm not sure you understood the question. Do you want a bike for just riding around, for centuries, for road races, for time trials, for criteriums? The reason he asked is that there are "road bikes" for each of these that are different enough that it actually matters. You would not want to get a time trial bike for criteriums, or vice versa.

CC is a well regarded shop, they can steer you to the right type of bike for you. If you go up to Boulder you could check out Excel Sports as well, but they might not have anything in your price range. I don't know if Turin is still in Denver, but they were a good shop when I lived there years ago. Actually, the front range is loaded with good shops.
At last - somewhat rational discourse
thank you

I want a regular road bike for general use

what is the difference between a century bike and a road race bike?
I did not know there was a difference what are they?
Dont people race bikes for more than 90 miles?
I watched the tour and I think most races were at least that long?

the whole point of my online shopping is to get the most for my limited means-
I wish I could hop on a plane to boulder but that costs $ so by the time I got there, I could only afford a $600 bike - :)

as far as fit goes- I have a road bike and I'll just compare that to the geometry charts from the online shop

My main question is if any of you can give me advice on how to sort out all the differences

IE- Korso wheels vs Alex wheels vs Ritchey wheels vs American Vs mavic vs?
is there a link on this site that compares these?
I'll go look but tell me if you guys know ahead of time
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Lifelover keeps asking you the same questions and you keep blowing him off like he's a kook.

Are all valid questions....

Now concerning racing vs. century.
A racing bike is a designed to be stiff and light with no concessions made for comfort.
A century bike is designed for going far and fast as comfortable as possible.

thanks - so a century bike has what parts different from a race bike?

I answered those questions and lifelover disregards my answers

I am looking for a general road bike that will fit my budget
I want to buy it online and new as all the bikes in the shops near me are way overpriced by about $500 - $1,000 as appears to my limited knowledge so far

he keeps pushing the Le Champion SL without saying why it is a good deal
I am still wading through learning about parts and stuff so any help is well appreciated

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brerabbit2 said:
At last - somewhat rational discourse
thank you
Lifelover keeps asking you the same questions and you keep blowing him off like he's a kook.

Are you looking for a racing bike, a touring bike, a tri bike, a MTB, a century bike?
Are you concerned with looks, having a impressive name on it, or having the only one of it kind in your area?
Are you 150 lbs or 300 lbs?
Is the frame, wheels or components most important?
Are all valid questions....

Now concerning racing vs. century.
A racing bike is a designed to be stiff and light with no concessions made for comfort.
A century bike is designed for going far and fast as comfortable as possible.
A touring bike is similar to a century bike except it has mounts for fenders and luggage racks. The gearing is lower to manage the extra weight on hills, and the brakes can be beefier for the same reason.
 

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gvh. i'm in double digits with purchases from them and have always been thrilled.

good luck.
 
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