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I picked up a set of tubeless ready wheels for my road bike, and I'm deciding which tubeless tires I want to run. I think I've narrowed it down to either the schwalbe pro one, or the Conti gp5000 but I suppose I could possibly be convinced otherwise. Has anyone here ridden both that could give their impressions? I think I'm prob going to get 25mm width, 28's will fit but they are a snug fit in the forks.

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I've used the Pro Ones (on Campag Shamal 2wf) since they came out. I like them a lot, but they are a racing tyre so fatigue life is not long.
 

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I've used the Pro Ones (on Campag Shamal 2wf) since they came out. I like them a lot, but they are a racing tyre so fatigue life is not long.
Thanks for the reply. When you say "not long", what do you mean? 1000 miles?
 

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My current fave is the Pro One, fast and supple, but I've also used Hutchinson Fusions without a complaint and have a Hutch. Galactik (?) in the wings ready to try. I've also used Giant Gavia's, and though they seem to wear well, they have more of a dead feel. I'm really excited about trying the GP5K TL when I can find a deal.
 

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Schwalbe failing carcass syndrome, Kerry.

I might have used the wrong term but then again how’s your Norwegian?
 
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My answer is none of the above. I managed around 3000 km on Pro Ones, but half a dozen punctures in that, some of which didn't seal. Switched to Hutchinson Fusions and they punctured 3 times in the first 200 km. The last straw for me was taking the bike into my local bike shop to have a cable replaced on the spot, and when I got on to test, got a puncture riding a figure of 8 in the car park. Though I managed to even top that when lifting the bike over the step to get it outside, and just the weight of setting it down again was enough to blow out one of the existing "seals".

I'm a lightish rider (65 kg), but in my experience, not only do tubeless puncture more often (and a LOT more often), when they do seal, those seals won't hold longer term. I get it for mountain bikes, where the pressures are a lot lower, but I feel like if you're running anything more than 50 - 60 psi, they're not reliable, at least on the back wheel - though I was puncturing fronts as well.

Whole experience was disastrous for me.
 

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My current fave is the Pro One, fast and supple, but I've also used Hutchinson Fusions without a complaint and have a Hutch. Galactik (?) in the wings ready to try. I've also used Giant Gavia's, and though they seem to wear well, they have more of a dead feel. I'm really excited about trying the GP5K TL when I can find a deal.
Thx for the input. I checked out the fusions and they are half the price of the GP5's, how many miles have you got out of the hutchinsons?
 

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My answer is none of the above. I managed around 3000 km on Pro Ones, but half a dozen punctures in that, some of which didn't seal. Switched to Hutchinson Fusions and they punctured 3 times in the first 200 km. The last straw for me was taking the bike into my local bike shop to have a cable replaced on the spot, and when I got on to test, got a puncture riding a figure of 8 in the car park. Though I managed to even top that when lifting the bike over the step to get it outside, and just the weight of setting it down again was enough to blow out one of the existing "seals".

I'm a lightish rider (65 kg), but in my experience, not only do tubeless puncture more often (and a LOT more often), when they do seal, those seals won't hold longer term. I get it for mountain bikes, where the pressures are a lot lower, but I feel like if you're running anything more than 50 - 60 psi, they're not reliable, at least on the back wheel - though I was puncturing fronts as well.

Whole experience was disastrous for me.
Thx for the input. I run into a lot of small wires on the road (steel belts from car tires?), my typical rides I get wires stuck in the tire and end up changing a tube, in fact I don't remember the last ride I had that I didn't replace a tube. My last ride before winter I ended up flatting my backup tube also and ended up calling my daughter for a ride. So I'm going to give tubeless a try and hope that it works better for me.
 

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Thx for the input. I checked out the fusions and they are half the price of the GP5's, how many miles have you got out of the hutchinsons?
Had 1600 miles before I put her up for winter zwifting, starting to square off but nothing significant. Unlike the gp4k's, reports say the 5k's run truer to size so I may go to a monster-truck size of 28mm when I do switch.

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I brought my wheels in (bontrager) to have them checked out before the season starts here, and the trek dealership had these rubbery-plastic rim strips that are made to be run tubeless. Has anyone else tried these? I picked them up and will give them a shot instead of taping the rims with the stans tape. I got them mounted and they are pretty slick, hopefully they work as well as they look. :)
 

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Small wires on the road

Thx for the input. I run into a lot of small wires on the road (steel belts from car tires?), So I'm going to give tubeless a try and hope that it works better for me.
My 2 flats this year has been with those small wires on the road, on my tire with tubes. I also found 2 of these small wires on my tubeless tire. Pulled them out and sealant sealed up nicely.:D
 

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Which sealant are you running?
What rim are you running?

I'm a heavier rider (80kg) and I usually inflate to 85psi (and let it go low until 55psi). I have managed 6700km on Schwalbe Pro One 28c. All punctures sealed without my knowledge and I used a half-half mixture of Orange Seal and Orange Seal Endurance. This on a hooked rim (HED Belgium+).
 

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I've had good luck with the 25c Hutchinson Fusion 5 all season on I9 wheels ( spec'd w/HED belgium rims IIRC, Blue tape). The grip and wear are really good. Rode Hell of Hunterton using them and no problems with pavement or gravel.

I tried Bontrager TLR tires but was unhappy with durability and grip in wet. The 23c Bontragers I used have been discontinued, and I assume the new ones are better.

I tried the Bontrager rim strip on some Pacenti rims but it was more hassle than wrapping with tape and very sensitive to getting damaged during tire installation.

I have my Bontrager cross wheels (Aluminum rims) set up tubeless with Vittoria tires and two layers of tape. Works great
 

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My answer is none of the above. I managed around 3000 km on Pro Ones, but half a dozen punctures in that, some of which didn't seal. Switched to Hutchinson Fusions and they punctured 3 times in the first 200 km. The last straw for me was taking the bike into my local bike shop to have a cable replaced on the spot, and when I got on to test, got a puncture riding a figure of 8 in the car park. Though I managed to even top that when lifting the bike over the step to get it outside, and just the weight of setting it down again was enough to blow out one of the existing "seals".

I'm a lightish rider (65 kg), but in my experience, not only do tubeless puncture more often (and a LOT more often), when they do seal, those seals won't hold longer term. I get it for mountain bikes, where the pressures are a lot lower, but I feel like if you're running anything more than 50 - 60 psi, they're not reliable, at least on the back wheel - though I was puncturing fronts as well.

Whole experience was disastrous for me.
my experience has been similar as yours but to a lesser extent. One thing is for sure, it's almost never possible to get close to the full life of a tubeless tire (as tubeless). Once a tubeless tire has started to wear down past its midlife point, then old seals may break, or it's harder to seal new holes. Then you'll end up putting in a tube if you want to continue using the tire to the end of its life. This increases cost of use.
 

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Nonono. I’m quite friendly to Swedes as well.
 
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