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Someone who understands thats crashing out while in the yellow jersey and losing it because of the crash is pretty heartbreaking. I lost a leaders jersey in a stage race once - I was not heartbroken but I was def very very disappointed, I can't imagen what its like to lose the lead of the biggest race in the world - can't feel good.


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Heartbreaking?? Come on. Whose writing this crap.



http://www.eurosport.com/cycling/tour-de-georgia/2006/sport_sto871311.shtml

"Another American, CSC's David Zabriskie finished third as he returned to the fore after losing his yellow jersey in last year's Tour de France with a heartbreaking crash in the team time trial."
 

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Someone who understands thats crashing out while in the yellow jersey and losing it because of the crash is pretty heartbreaking. I lost a leaders jersey in a stage race once - I was not heartbroken but I was def very very disappointed, I can't imagen what its like to lose the lead of the biggest race in the world - can't feel good.

He shouldn't of been in it in the first place. CSC would of never been able to help him keep it anyways.

Until Zabriske can prove he can be there, it isn't heartbreaking.
 

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He shouldn't of been in it in the first place. CSC would of never been able to help him keep it anyways.

Until Zabriske can prove he can be there, it isn't heartbreaking.
And who decides who "should" and "shouldn't of been" (sic) in yellow jersey?

It's free for all - if you can grab it, even for a day - good for you! If you can hold it for several days - even better. Zabriskie and CSC defended it well and he might have held it for another several days if not for the crash, so in that sense it was rather heartbreaking to see someone lose it solely due to crash.

And it's not because Zabriskie is an american - if it was Francoux Simon (spelling?) or Thomas Voeckler or Stuey O'Grady losing his yellow due to crash, it would have been disappointing too. Yellow changing hands adds up to excitement of the race. If we decide that only Basso and Ulrich are allowed to wear yellow this year, then why even bother watching first 10 stages?
 

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Shold not have been ... how do you figure he WON the prologe his team defended the jersy and they were looking set to win the TTT he more than deserved to be in it. He worked for the Jersey and got it - its not dumb luck esp in a TT.


Do you have any idea what your are talking about have you ever raced or are you one of those guys who sits around and tells other people how this or that persons achivements are meanless because you decided they were.

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He shouldn't of been in it in the first place. CSC would of never been able to help him keep it anyways.

Until Zabriske can prove he can be there, it isn't heartbreaking.
 

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He shouldn't of been in it in the first place. CSC would of never been able to help him keep it anyways.

Until Zabriske can prove he can be there, it isn't heartbreaking.
By your logic, Fignon shouldn't have won the 83 Tour because it was his first time riding it.

To lose the jersey to a crash or injury is awful. Ask Pascal Simon or Stefane Heulot. Simon rode for several days with a broken scapula, and Heulot abandoned in tears because the pain in his knees grew too great to bear.

What would qualify him for the Jersey? Or is it only riders with a number ending in 1?
 

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bas said:
Heartbreaking?? Come on. Whose writing this crap.



http://www.eurosport.com/cycling/tour-de-georgia/2006/sport_sto871311.shtml

"Another American, CSC's David Zabriskie finished third as he returned to the fore after losing his yellow jersey in last year's Tour de France with a heartbreaking crash in the team time trial."
crashing out of the yellow jersey is heart breaking...it's rare and not the way you want it taken off your shoulders.
 

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Considering how Zabriskie rode in the TDF <i>after</i> the crash, I think heartbreaking is a good choice of words. From the highest highs to the lowest lows? Yep, that was a heartbreaker, dreammaker, love-taker, don't you mess around with Dave.
 

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bas said:
Heartbreaking?? Come on. Whose writing this crap.



http://www.eurosport.com/cycling/tour-de-georgia/2006/sport_sto871311.shtml

"Another American, CSC's David Zabriskie finished third as he returned to the fore after losing his yellow jersey in last year's Tour de France with a heartbreaking crash in the team time trial."
I think your comment is crude and insensitive.

Zabriskie's tenure at the 2005 tour was an inspiration to me and my son. When he crashed, all my friends in the room were watery-eyed. I did feel some chest pain as well and had difficulty breathing for a moment.

Happy Friday boys :D Where's the best Tour de Georgia coverage??

francois
 

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francois said:
I think your comment is crude and insensitive.

Zabriskie's tenure at the 2005 tour was an inspiration to me and my son. When he crashed, all my friends in the room were watery-eyed. I did feel some chest pain as well and had difficulty breathing for a moment.

Happy Friday boys :D Where's the best Tour de Georgia coverage??

francois

Please don't cry...
 

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He earned it but who thinks he was really going to keep it?
Nobody, but so what? And I'm not being smart, I'm asking seriously, given the lengths to which riders go to get the MJ, and the rewards that go with it, what difference does it make that he couldn't keep it until the end?

You know, who wouldn't frame it and put it on their wall if they won it, even if only for a day?
 

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Nobody, but so what? And I'm not being smart, I'm asking seriously, given the lengths to which riders go to get the MJ, and the rewards that go with it, what difference does it make that he couldn't keep it until the end?

You know, who wouldn't frame it and put it on their wall if they won it, even if only for a day?

I agree but I think we're just looking at the subject from different viewpoints. It was disappointing to see him go down that way for sure. However, I'm seeing/reading a lot of subtext lately that seems to cast him as the next big thing when it comes to ITTs at the TDF. Some seem to think he's going to be consistently doing top 3 placings in TDF ITTs from now on.
 

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Considering how Zabriskie rode in the TDF <i>after</i> the crash, I think heartbreaking is a good choice of words. From the highest highs to the lowest lows? Yep, that was a heartbreaker, dreammaker, love-taker, don't you mess around with Dave.
Now that I can agree with.
 

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I would say heartbreaking is right on. Had he not crashed out that day and lost the yellow jersey, he may have been able to hold onto for another six or seven stages. Being able to say you have worn the yellow jersey for seven days would make most pro cyclists career.
 

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He's not on the Giro short list for '06

Armed with 30 hungry riders, how Riis will choose the best team to support these goals will be interesting. For the Giro, he says eleven riders have been short-listed and knows he must choose nine by the end of next week. "I have a couple of other names I'm unsure on, but it's not going to be decided before the Tour of Romandie," Riis said. "So at the last moment, the last rider or two will be in the team. Of course, Ivan, Jens Voigt, Bobby Julich, [Giovanni] Lombardi, [Volodymir] Gustov, Nicki Sørensen... Christian Vandevelde was sure but crashed some weeks ago and broke a collarbone again, so I need to see him next week. Peron, the same, he's been sick, but we'll wait and see.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=features/2006/basso_giro_press_conf

Even though he did well last year there. What's Bjarne thinking?
 

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I would say heartbreaking is right on. Had he not crashed out that day and lost the yellow jersey, he may have been able to hold onto for another six or seven stages. Being able to say you have worn the yellow jersey for seven days would make most pro cyclists career.

Well said.

Bas, I think your first post shows your ignorance about the "social politics" of cycling. Not only did he take it by winning the prolouge, he also did it by smashing the best time trialists and prolouge specialists in the world. The idea that a strong rider like DZ and a great team like the kind that CSC would bring to The Tour couldn't hold the jersey for a good long while tells me you don't pay attention as much as you should during the cycling season.

As for what Red Sox Junkie said, a prime example of this is Thomas Voeckler. Here is a middle of the road pro, who got himself in the right looooong early stage breakaway that allowed him some time in yellow without taking the stage. What 99.9999999999% of people know him for is the tooth and nail way he tried to keep it for the next week and a half. Unless I am missing some other key wins....
 

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ignorance about the "social politics" of cycling
I like that social politics bit :D.

Bas is just messing with us. He gets that way when he can't find his favorite microbrew at bevmo... Pabst Blue Ribbon.

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