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Hank Stamper said:
In the real world just about anything over 5% 'can' be steep if you're tired, trying to keep up with stronger riders, and/or it goes on long enough. Get near 10% and it's steep regardless of the riders condition.

But on the internet where a lot of people spin up most hills in 53 x 11, it's usually about 20% before you'd start getting unanimous agreement that something is steep.
Post of the Thread™! :lol: :thumbsup:

It's funny 'cuz it's true.
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Lodi Hill

ridenfish39 said:
LOL....that's it. I love the fact they close the road in the winter. I went up it once one April and there was still snow on the sides.

I'm sure you've done Fiddlers also then. There is so much good riding in Bucks and in NJ it's amazing. I also love doing the dirt roads. Lodi Hill is steep as hell and it's unpaved, the best of both worlds. I went up it on Sunday as part of the 110 miles I did.
I ride a lot in that area, but I was unfamiliar with Lodi Hill. I found it on the map, as it turns out I've passed it several times while riding up Red Cliff. TopoUSA shows some sections as steep as 30%, so absent common sense and any other plans, off I went ito tackle it. The 30% figure was probably an over-statement, but it was definitely tough. I think Uhlerstown is steeper, but Lodi's dirt is probably an equalizing factor. And as luck would have it, midway up a car comes up the hill forcing me to pull over and unclip. Took a couple tries to clip back in and finish the climb.
 
AlanE said:
I ride a lot in that area, but I was unfamiliar with Lodi Hill. I found it on the map, as it turns out I've passed it several times while riding up Red Cliff. TopoUSA shows some sections as steep as 30%, so absent common sense and any other plans, off I went ito tackle it. The 30% figure was probably an over-statement, but it was definitely tough. I think Uhlerstown is steeper, but Lodi's dirt is probably an equalizing factor. And as luck would have it, midway up a car comes up the hill forcing me to pull over and unclip. Took a couple tries to clip back in and finish the climb.
A great thread. A big part of climbing really steep stuff is technique and relaxation, which comes from experience. I've watched Alan glide up some really steep stuff on his fixie.

There's steep, then getting back to the 13% question, there's long and steep. For example, Godfrey Ridge Rd., or State Rt. 191, south of Stroudburg, PA, is a pretty constant 11-12%.

A couple of years ago, I did that 1000' climb over two miles in 17 min. 30 sec., so about 3,430 ft/hr (if you're talking VAM, or vertical ascent in meters per hour, about 1,045). For comparison, top pros can have VAMs approaching 1,800.

Oh, and riding at a high intensity on flat roads is not the same as climbing at a high intensity. Ask anyone who rides on flat roads all the time and then tries to do a really hilly ride... There is something "special" about hills. Use of slightly different muscle groups will gut a flatlander when he hits the hills.
 
orlin03 said:
One of the harder climbs I've done is a 25% called Breakneck in Northwest Jersey.
Breakneck is just about a 1 mile climb not including Rt 515 to get up to it. The problem is the traffic on it. Not only do you have to deal with the crazy grade but the cars passing you. Have you ever gone down it? that is really scary. trying to keep your rear wheel from sliding out on those sharp turns and hope your brakes don't fail you. It is a pretty awesome climb.
Curtis Dr is much safer climb when it comes to traffic.
 
How about 37% constant grade? I found a paved pathway that is 274 feet long and gains a whopping 102 feet! You can't traverse because the pathway is only about 3 feet wide. I thought I would try it on my 24" wheel, which is direct drive, 1:1. :yikes:

Extreme Unicycling - Super Steep Climb Challenge! - YouTube
 
The steeper the grade the more power you have to put into the pedals
Thanks! Now I know what I've been doing wrong all these years.

Now if I can only figure out what to do when I want to go faster.

BTW, I love revived threads.
 
I rode the infamous Manayunk Wall yesterday (the Philadelphia pro race does it each year). For the last big chunk of it my comp said was at 13% grade. It was pretty steep.

What %grade constitutes steep in cycling out of curiosity?
13% is steep, and worthy of Hors category. In Albuquerque we have a section called the "fingers" which is in the foothills area. The worst grade is approximately 23% for about 30 feet. Lots of folks either got off the bike, finished te climb by walking, didn't even climb the hill and just watched in amazement.
 
There is a triathlon in western Maryland that has a bit o' climbing including this gem of a strech called the Westernport Wall at 31%

http://www.savagemantri.org/Westernport_Wall.html

The site shows cyclists struggling up the climb, and more than a few right as they are tipping over to the shouts of onlookers and the "devils" encouragment.
 
The Steepest Streets In San Francisco, For Real
1. Prentiss between Chapman and Powhattan (37% grade)
2. Nevada above Chapman (36% grade)
3. Baden above Mangels (34% grade) *
4. Ripley between Peralta and Alabama (31.5% grade)
5. Filbert between Hyde and Leavenworth (31.5% grade)
6. 22nd between Vicksburg and Church (31.5% grade)
7. 24th between Grand View and Fountain (30% grade)
8. Kearny above Broadway (30% grade) **
9. Holyoke between Karen and Woolsey (30% grade)
10. 25th above Grand View (30% grade)
11. Jones between Union and Filbert (29% grade)
12. Dwight above Goettingen (29% grade)
13. Folsom between Chapman and Powhattan (29% grade)

https://www.datapointed.net/media/2009/11/prentiss_big-520x346.jpg
 
I'll agree with a lot of folks....generally speaking 13% is pretty steep, but length has a lot to do with it. I'm in a city with a pretty decent river valley...the main roads coming out of the valley are typically between 7 and 25% grades. Some hit 30% and are short, others top out at about 9% and grind at about 7% for a while.

The 30% puts me into 22:34 in the 37 lb mtb to sit and spin it and you feel your legs burning by the time you get to the top and it is the same with some of the 20%+ ones that are much longer.

Overall, though, steep depends on what you're used to :)
 
That's funny. I'm actually reading this on my iphone while going up a 21% grade 2 mile long hill right now. I had to slow down to under 15 mph because the road was too bumpy to read the text though.
In the real world just about anything over 5 'can' be steep if you're tired, trying to keep up with stronger riders, and/or it goes on long enough. Get near 10 and it's steep regardless of the riders condition.

But on the internet where a lot of people spin up most hills in 53 x 11 it's usually about 20% before you'd start getting unanimous agreement that something is steep.
 
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